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The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
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Apr 15, 2019

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Shawn Rebello
Shawn Rebello 3 hours ago
Wouldn't it have been easier to simply raise the height of the aircraft by installing taller landing gear? The engines could then have been accommodated under the wing I suppose.
Gary Looper
Gary Looper 4 hours ago
Simple fact is that as "Flawed" as the Max may or may not be, BOTH CRASHES WERE PILOT ERROR! The first because the exact plane that crashed had the error the previous day and the crew solved the problem by turning off the malfunctioning equipment, Therefore the crew knew how to handle the error. The second because the crew fixed the problem in the air by turning off the malfunctioning equipment and then turned the malfunctioning equipment back on!
HEED
HEED 6 hours ago
and the corruption continues. They didn't anything to solve the problem. updating the software does not make the plane safe. I will never fly on a boeing 737 .
Alison Mihailovich
Alison Mihailovich 7 hours ago
Russian made Super Jet - 100 is better and cheaper ! Irish City Jet fly them now . Its good
Bernievids
Bernievids 15 hours ago
I hope this is true.
prolazy55 lazlaz
prolazy55 lazlaz 17 hours ago
I feel bad
Nonya Busi
Nonya Busi 19 hours ago
Boeing needs in prison.
Eric Rojo
Eric Rojo 21 hour ago
Isn't it ironic that unbridled free enterprise and competition is touted as the solution to bad design decisions and poor quality products (at least in the U.S.). This is one instance where that is not the case.
MF SF
MF SF Day ago
...and who from Boeing will make jail time for keeping secret that tiny insignificant detail? Sorry... naive question... And the money wins 👌
Karen Van Vuuren
Very impressive video!
Daniel
Daniel Day ago
It was possible to rush it, because boeing is USA...and USA has da power :)
Paul Williams
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Sleepy
Sleepy Day ago
As much as people say competition is an inevitable good that comes out of capitalism, the free market naturally moves towards monopolies or singular entities with large marketshare because generally it costs way less for the companies and consumers. Having to only train one pilot to fly two different planes is easier than learning 8. And it costs less for the airline
Chris Kingston
Take a train next time you go on holiday
Benoit Vanhees
Benoit Vanhees 10 hours ago
And by preference a European train :)
This is Kate
This is Kate Day ago
I took two Airbus coming back home from Italy to US. I felt very safe. Lol
Tenshi
Tenshi Day ago
Capitalism at its finest.
유소영
유소영 Day ago
Why do we keep letting U.S. take advantage of the rest of the world. If this happened in U.S. and if the victims were American? It would have brought the company down.
OneGuyOnAScooter
Let the record show that greed and envy for money and success can cause terrible accidents and huge loss of life.
Travis Phillips
Hmmm I’ve seen another video that goes over exactly everything you just said. Weird
JLUMINADO
JLUMINADO Day ago
In my personal opinion which more than likely would never happen is the CEO and everyone else that gave thr ok, should get fired and see criminal charges immediately, the FAA should have an internal investigation for not looking further into it than just taking Boeing's own certifications and again it'll never happen but I would have them scrap all 737 max 8 planes immediately. The worst part about it is that what ever they decide to do, we don't actually know what kind of planes we're risking our lives getting into. It's sad.
hampala tacklebox
Video subtitles: how the killing machine born
hampala tacklebox
hampala tacklebox 5 hours ago
MI6 DC10: old killing machine
MI6
MI6 5 hours ago
DC10: am I a joke to you
csjaugiedog
csjaugiedog Day ago
@4:28 "The pilots continued to fight with the MCAS" Continued?? Why? The battle with MCAS never should have happened. FAILURE #1 They diverted their attention away from FLYING THE AIRPLANE. If they had simply turned off electric pitch trim and concentrated on a KNOWN PITCH AND POWER SETTING, the crash would not have happened! NEVER deviate from basic aircraft control. Pitch trim was changing uncommanded. The only way that's possible is with the electric trim system. @23:22, They knew something was wrong with pitch trim, yet they allowed the problem to continue while wasting precious time consulting the manual. Many situations can and do occur that demand a purely instinctive and automatic response. This was one of those situations MCAS did not kill those people...the pilots did!
I got my eyes on U
THEY KEEP ON MAKING JET ENGINES MORE AND MORE BETTER BUT NOT ONE HAVE NEVER TRIED TO BUILD AN ENGINE FOR AIRPLANES THAT DONT STALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE? THEN HOW COME ROCKET ENGINES DONT STALL GOING UP AND PASSING ALL LAYERS OF OUR ATMOSPHERE?
Ashton Manivanh At gaming
3:33 no MCAS means “MAY CRASH ANY SECOND”
David Henderson
David Henderson 2 days ago
The corny music track is not only irrelevant but detracts from the credibility of an otherwise good report.
Andrej Passco
Andrej Passco 2 days ago
so instead change put new wheels they decide to control the plane over one sensor.. Great idea
ROET
ROET 2 days ago
If its a Boeing ,i am not going!🤗
MrCliffda3rd
MrCliffda3rd 2 days ago
Yep I'd rather fly in an A320 or older 737. At least they'll get to my destination.
This is Kate
This is Kate Day ago
MrCliffda3rd love a320 and a330
CXensation
CXensation 2 days ago
Boeing has become too big a company. They dont think they need to be responsible for human lives anymore. Lets beat them out of market, dont fly Boeing.
Agus Suryaputra
Agus Suryaputra 2 days ago
with this fault design I must check type of the plane i use for traveling. i will never using this 737 MAX plane. and I think 737 MAX must be grounded permanent.
AHKira
AHKira Day ago
Very good attitude you have! 737 max is a irresponsible product.
ZeekielGames
ZeekielGames 2 days ago
That is sad. Boeing probably didn’t expect this *MCAS* system to fail, and thus it came unexpectedly that the planes were crashing. Disappointed...
CrossChannelFairy
How is it a computer 'bug' when it's code that was written for a specific purpose?
Bill Olsen
Bill Olsen 17 hours ago
The code was probably ok, it was auto programmed to kick in on the basis of information from only one sensor aboard the aircraft, which is unheard of in this day & age. It should be done on the basis of 2 or 3 different sensors, but that would have delayed introduction of the new airliner. Criminal behavior at Boeing, and how did they ever think they could get by with it? Maybe Boeing is now run by a bunch of slick suits with new MBA's in their pockets instead of aircraft engineers like it was for years.
PlanesRkool
PlanesRkool 2 days ago
Everyone points fingers at MCAS. The MCAS did its job. The sensors or lack of sensors did not.
Agus Suryaputra
Agus Suryaputra 2 days ago
MCAS just small things,the big thing is fault design of the plane. 737 cant accomodate bigger engine,but boeing force it to put that engine,to save time and money to compete with airbus.
Jack Frost
Jack Frost 2 days ago
You also have to blame the airlines because they wanted to save money on fuel even after the pilots warned them something was wrong with the new engines
DBR00
DBR00 2 days ago
I normally hate background music in these videos but yours was soothing and somber in respect for the passengers killed.
adeleke abbey
adeleke abbey 2 days ago
Ignorance and greed are relatives,Boeing:good night,Airbus:good morning
kingcarcas1349
kingcarcas1349 2 days ago
I know somebody who worked with somebody that used to work at Boeing and at their new job they were telling them stuff like "we never tested things so damn much at Boeing like you guys want to" and then..............................
Victor Wanstreet
Victor Wanstreet 2 days ago
plane is perfectly safe it was pilot error
mack
mack 2 days ago
So all Boeing had to do was increase the ground clearance on the 737 to accommodate for the larger engine and the two crashes may not have happened. How can Boeing guarantee the software update will not crash during operation.
Stacy Faulkner
Stacy Faulkner 3 days ago
Inexperienced pilots is the reason for crash. Bottom line.
johan petersson
johan petersson 2 days ago
No. Corporates who cut corners for money is the reason. Period.
Mark Anthony
Mark Anthony 3 days ago
Who is the fa$ narrating?
leule dawit
leule dawit 3 days ago
We should give up on the Boeing 737 max 8
PyroRomancer
PyroRomancer 3 days ago
>software overriding conscious pilots
Boris Karloff
Boris Karloff 3 days ago
Gone in 600 seconds
Boris Karloff
Boris Karloff 3 days ago
Boeing boeing...gone
Boris Karloff
Boris Karloff 3 days ago
Kill one person...go to jail Kill a lot of people....a statistical blip to your profits.
will edwards
will edwards 3 days ago
Is background music really necessary? It makes the dialogue hard to hear.
Boater on Tour
Boater on Tour 3 days ago
It's bad that there must crash a second plane before something was done.
Greenvolksi
Greenvolksi 3 days ago
Shocked. Did Boeing seriously fix bad flight dynamics with a bit of software and a sensor??? Is this the same company that designed and built the Jumbo and the Dreamliner?? Someone or some people in Boeing need to go to prison.
Nick M
Nick M 3 days ago
They had no left phalange. So sad.
M Ski
M Ski 3 days ago
Trained pilots wouldn't have crashed !!!
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
That's not 100% true but they would have been more prepared but more prepared doesn't mean that it will solve it
MavHunter20XX
MavHunter20XX 3 days ago
ONe thing thing that is left out that US pilots never crashed the 737 max. Is it true they didn't know about the MCAS? Or is it that they were so dependent on the computers they didn't know how to fly the the plane themselves w/o computer intervention. Something to think about and investigate.?
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
They wouldn't be flying if they couldn't fly it themselves. The autopilot is mostly used while the plane is stable and leveled at its cruising altitude so the pilots can relax a bit. Also you said they "wouldn't know how to fly the aircraft without computer intervention" when computers caused it in the first place.
Michael Lim
Michael Lim 3 days ago
FAA regulators?
Michael Lim
Michael Lim 3 days ago
How come the Boeing leaders and those involved in Max project are not found guilty of MANSLAUGHTER? Is it because they are americans and like all americans they are above the law?
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
That's not how the law works with air travel
Kairvette
Kairvette 3 days ago
Cant believe ppl would put such baseless story on the web without all the facts and data.
Boris Karloff
Boris Karloff 3 days ago
Can you believe that aircraft builders would put flawed redesigns into the service of carrying passengers?
Spic Democrat
Spic Democrat 3 days ago
Boeing executives bonus are calculated based on number of deaths, the more deaths the higher the bonus !!!!!
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
Lol
Spic Democrat
Spic Democrat 4 days ago
After the two crashes the Boeing executives ask? How big a bonus are we gonna git !!!!!
Spic Democrat
Spic Democrat 4 days ago
Never trust American companies, they don't mind killing their customers. Remember the Ford pinto !!!!!
Curtis Whyte
Curtis Whyte 4 days ago
This and all the issues the 787 was having is why I HATE Boeing. There more concerned with money then they are with human life and it disgusts me...
irvan36mm
irvan36mm 4 days ago
Boeing couldn’t just install taller landing gear in order to raise the 737 to make room for the bigger engine instead?
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
I'm pretty sure they'd have to change other things to accompany the taller landing gear and moving the engines up was an easier fix
Cosmos Wolf
Cosmos Wolf 4 days ago
Maybe Boeing and Airbus should end their rivalry.
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
Companies can't just "end their rivalries" it's a business rivalry and that means they're fighting over customers and if you end it it would end with one of the companies going bankrupt or dyingor one of the companies surpassing the other by a large amount.
Cosmos Wolf
Cosmos Wolf 4 days ago
Competition ain't always good.
Cosmos Wolf
Cosmos Wolf 4 days ago
Maybe competition isn't always good.
Benoit Vanhees
Benoit Vanhees 9 hours ago
Competition is OK, it's greed that's dangerous.
Cosmos Wolf
Cosmos Wolf 4 days ago
This story proves that competition between companies isn't always a good thing.
Cosmos Wolf
Cosmos Wolf 4 days ago
In the end, the rivalry between Boeing and Airbus is what started this whole thing. Competition isn't always a good thing, especially in the Boeing/Airbus case.
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
At 3:52, the training materials don't include the software because pilots are trained to correct a runaway trim condition by selecting the AutoStab cutout and manually trimming the plane, which is how MCAS receives its power.
Vapletrichs Gne
Vapletrichs Gne 4 days ago
This should be used as an example of how the media manipulates facts through it’s disgusting attack on America.
Vens Modz
Vens Modz 4 days ago
Thats so sad. My heat goes out to the familys
Stefan Hearst
Stefan Hearst 4 days ago
This is exactly what 8 or 9 of pilots and engine inspectors were at DFW Airport were discussing near the restaurant at the airport that I was over-hearing with my friend Sarah way before any accident. The mechanics would also mention that, during inspection and review of engine servicing, there would always be buckets filled with O-rings, gaskets, lock-nuts and other parts that were new but not installed or used during the engine rebuild servicing at overseas contractor locations. The manuals were in English and many of the contract mechanics did not speak English and certainly did not read English but, in an effort to save money and increase profits for the American Airlines and Southwest Airlines and other airline companies, it was a "no brainer" to offshore the work to contract mechanics as they can be paid pennies on the dollar without any type of healthcare benefits needed. Oh well. When it comes to business decisions to maximise company profits at any price, it is apparent that human lives are taken into account and are irrelevant and inconsequential. All that really matters in or American Darwinian Capitalist Plutocracy is PROFIT above all things. Praise Be to the Free Market Economy.
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
At 2:22, the engine move is forward and up, and renders a balanced effect, as tested in the wind tunnel. Not just moved "up".
Linus Möller
Linus Möller 3 days ago
Yeah, that part could have been better explained.
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
What are your sources for the article besides other related news topics?
Seany 92019 ツ
Seany 92019 ツ 4 days ago
Boeing: Lets put a bigger engine on the 737 we don’t care if it doesn’t fit *PLANE CRASHES* Me: Just put taller wheels duh
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
Might not fit In when the gear folds up
donna foster
donna foster 4 days ago
Watch the documentary on you tube 60 minutes Australia., it tells everything about this. I was shocked. Of course you won’t see it air in the USA, but thank God for you tube, we all can watch it.
donna foster
donna foster 4 days ago
Sweetteawillie i have watched his videos. He is amazing in explaining the problems with the Max8.
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
donna foster I'll give you a source worth listening to - it's blancoliro channel, a current B-777 pilot with regular updates on this issue. So far, this video and an WSJ video omit key facts in their stories. Be leary of the mockingbird media.
Bearded Barnstormer
Nice hatchet job on Boeing vice. Funny how none of the American operators had any issue with this. Where were you guys when the Automation on the airbus killed everyone on that Air France flight? I’ll wait
Tan Hinggjien
Tan Hinggjien 4 days ago
Boeing 737 MAX 8 / 9 ... ..is UNWELL aircraft production..... wrong and failed technology... Boeing..... MUST BE..... CHANGE.... this model and technology......... NOW...!! !! !! !!.......must be RISING.. NEW Model and NEW Technology..... and NEVER REPEAT.... MAX model and MAX technology....... Forever.. and forever.... ....and Forever......!! !!
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
wut
Austin Duffield
Austin Duffield 4 days ago
Boeing need to pay millions to the families.
Muhammad Firdaus
Muhammad Firdaus 4 days ago
penyelidik mati-matian mencari penyebab moncong pesawat yang menukik drastis itu, dan boeng's diam-diam aja, gak bilang klo mereka menambahkan software MCAS, yang menyebabkan hal itu sebagai solusi karena merubah design letak mesin, demi menyaingi Airbus.. it's All About money...damn.
Typical Ragyzy
Typical Ragyzy 4 days ago
The Lion air crash was on my birthday omg Crazy
Nobilangelo Ceramalus
What ever happened to fail-safe thinking in an aircraft company a hundred years old? 'Design is thinking made visible. But those guys were thinking, 'Quick, we have to beat Airbus', not 'How do we design a plane that will be safe?'
Edward Burke
Edward Burke 4 days ago
Sure, Boeing is in the wrong for failing to properly manufacturer and impliment the new engines but the FAA approved it. Everybody knows that a company might try to cut corners to save on cost, but what is the FAAs reason behind clearing an obviously flawed system?
Cosmos Wolf
Cosmos Wolf 4 days ago
It's because the FAA is corrupt.
Niko
Niko 4 days ago
You see, the safty priority in Indonesia and Africa, is alot less than the North America and Europe, especially northern Europe where the airplane travel is one of the most highest secure in modern age.
Dzaky 1706
Dzaky 1706 4 days ago
737 737 ------ + 1474 737 ------- - 737 Just some random math comments folks nothing to see here
eSalty
eSalty 4 days ago
Bad idea to watch this before having to go on an airplane, wish me luck. :(
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
eSalty You are safer in aircraft than on land, based on facts. Watch and listen to a B-777 pilot on this issue at blancoliro channel. He has updates from Boeing and administration officials. You will have a better understanding of the situation. Be safe in your travels and be well... informed.
james ndung'u
james ndung'u 4 days ago
In reality MCAS was introduced to hide a structural defect
Mark 433
Mark 433 4 days ago
I think this is why they say - never believe everything you hear on the internet
Green Silver
Green Silver 4 days ago
If it says Boeing, I’m not going.
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
Flew to Indonesia on a boeing 787 and to Japan on a 777. Just because one plane isn't safe doesn't mean they all are
re575817
re575817 4 days ago
America, we need to move to a socialist thought of thinking. AMERICA can still be a captious nation, but at what cost, itS consumers? Save lives and still make money. What is your rush? HOW MUCH IS TO MUCH?
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
Boeing is American but America is not Boeing
Passionately Ambivalent
I'll take the train.
Michael Oswal
Michael Oswal 4 days ago
Why am I not surprised is the USA company the one "failing"
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
Michael Oswal The WSJ will sell you the same story. Market players taking advantage of bad publicity? A smear and a wrap-up all in one!
tiffsaver
tiffsaver 4 days ago
WHY HAVEN'T THE RESULTS OF THE BLACK BOXES BEEN RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC YET??
jake wood
jake wood 5 days ago
And also how does he know anything about aerospace engineering
Jose Camacho
Jose Camacho 5 days ago
wow putting there customers in danger so they can win
dovahkiin vakii
dovahkiin vakii 5 days ago
Vuz they want erase some Indonesianand africans 😂😁😂😂😂😁
R3CAV
R3CAV 5 days ago
Oof
Anais Gouati
Anais Gouati 5 days ago
Stop putting peoples lives in danger because you want more money!
Turb0 Punda
Turb0 Punda 3 days ago
It's not they want more money you understand companies can go bankrupt
Pussy Footer
Pussy Footer 5 days ago
Oops 😬
Astried Yunita Hair
When Lion Air 610 crash with no trace because it's in the water, many blamed Lion Air not doing the right procedure. Even Boeing itself. I think somehow Ethiopian Air saves lots of life after. Because everybody was finally looked up to what happens since nobody care about what happen to Lion Air 610. Rest in peace all the soul from Lion Air and Ethiopian Air.
Steve Judge
Steve Judge 5 days ago
As tragic as it is, I can’t help myself to compare a scene of real plane crash with 9/11 - Flight 93 Shanksville Pennsylvania - "Nothing there but a hole in the ground" ... Go Figure ..
yong plus
yong plus 5 days ago
Wild wild west...thats all that it is. Greed
rooster sideburbs
I dont see anything in this video that shows boeing did this to cut corners - they did it to compete with airbus. I dont think boeing knew this software would cause crashes - yeah cause crashes = bad for business.
Sweetteawillie
Sweetteawillie 4 days ago
rooster sideburbs Blancoliro channel is the one for you. You can see through this hype!
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