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****** About this video: Be part of the excitement as Challengers, Big Boys, Turbines and modern diesels leave Cheyenne and Laramie, Wyoming for the battle up Sherman Hill. It’s one of the most legendary climbs in the history of railroading. This clip focuses on the huge turbines Union Pacific used on the hill. At the end of the clip the announcer tells us what became of these behemoths! If you want to see more of action on the hill, including Big Boys and Challengers running alone and unaided with a long strings of freight cars, get the DVD:
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6 ноя 2018

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Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
If you like seeing the "Big Blows" on Sherman Hill, I'm sure you'll like seeing the double diesels Union Pacific fielded next! See DD35 and DD40 locomotives: ruvid.net/video/видео-wYCaC3DxLIY.html
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
+Michael Plumb I am not sure I have any footage of that experimental engine. It never made it to production... but it was a great experiment!
Michael Plumb
Michael Plumb Месяц назад
will we get to see the coal turbine as well?
Alexis DeVille
Alexis DeVille Месяц назад
M325 moise
Alan Dunstan
Alan Dunstan 14 дней назад
I know you guys didn't create the video but I still must say it's turbines not turbans.
Rosey Lynn
Rosey Lynn 14 дней назад
Excellent!!
Rosey Lynn
Rosey Lynn 14 дней назад
Excellent!!
Bowling Doc
Bowling Doc 15 дней назад
Big Dawgs on Sherman Hill
Mark Cinque
Mark Cinque 15 дней назад
Man look at that Train!, 0:10
Dylan Ellis
Dylan Ellis 15 дней назад
Man i wish Union Pacific still used those things.
Gary Everett
Gary Everett 16 дней назад
My father was a railroader during the 1940's and 50's, so it's in my DNA so to speak. I came very close to becoming a railroader myself, but chose to drive a big rig instead, but i still love to watch trains in real time or in videos. My nephew does as well.
BNSF RAIL FAN
BNSF RAIL FAN 16 дней назад
I seen Chicago and north western on Sherman hill
TrainTrackTrav
TrainTrackTrav 18 дней назад
The stories that the old guys tell about these units are pretty impressive. One story tells of one of these giants melting part of a highway overpass. One of my favorites is how Union Pacific decided to take one of the things to Los Angeles. Yeah, that only happened once...
tim mayer
tim mayer 19 дней назад
The price of fuel today would bankrupt any railroad still using turbine engines.
Guillermo memito
Guillermo memito 24 дня назад
BIG POWER MACHINE 💪💪💪💪
Bill
Bill 25 дней назад
I always wondered what one engine Wighed they said 820,000 ?
Jeremy R
Jeremy R 25 дней назад
Awesome shot at the end with 8444 before it got renumber to 844
Ronald Morrison
Ronald Morrison 25 дней назад
Beautiful lady and knowledgeable ta boot!
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ⵉⵜⵔⵓⵏⴰⵓⵜ 26 дней назад
I'm hearing a lot of turban talk, but nobody is wearing them...
2Stroke Diesel Power
2Stroke Diesel Power 29 дней назад
Sure would be Great if UP would restore a "Big Blow" and add it to the Heritage / Steam fleet along with the E-units. Great Video - Thank You, and greatly appreciate all the work you put into all your train videos!! Thanks again.
Mike Gall
Mike Gall 29 дней назад
Thanks for the great video
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot 29 дней назад
Super happy to provide it... thanks for watching! :-)
Entertainment Worldz
Entertainment Worldz Месяц назад
great video
Ron Troy
Ron Troy Месяц назад
So why are they no longer used?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
+Ron Troy Any turbine will face a noise issue, but I think, and I am no expert, the real problem would be the infrastructure needed. Maintenance locations, trained mechanics, CNG facilities, etc. Multiple Unit diesels are just so flexible that any efficiencies will need to be so great that it would overcome the infrastructure issues. My 2 cents. :-)
Ron Troy
Ron Troy Месяц назад
+Railfan Depot I wonder if today one could use CNG in a much more efficient and modern turbine electric which ought to be more cost effective and just as clean as a Tier 4 diesel, much less complex. Any thoughts?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There is a quite a bit of discussion here about that, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
Rob Mcgill
Rob Mcgill Месяц назад
The Union Pacific has a thing for operating the most powerful locomotives available.
Xysix
Xysix Месяц назад
Love this stuff. I subbed and rand the bell. More videos please.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thank you! More video are on the way!! :-)
Harold Lancaster
Harold Lancaster Месяц назад
The turbines are my favorite locomotives. Do you have anything on the coal turbine?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I do not think we have any footage of the short lived UP coal turbine. We do have some more footage of these monsters and some Amtrak Turboliner footage. Keep watching!
Greg Smith
Greg Smith Месяц назад
Sounds so great! Why did they retire them? High maintenance costs? Poor performance at low speeds? What? Check below for the answer...
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Yep, there is a quite a bit of discussion here about that here, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
Haramasch Abrasir
Haramasch Abrasir Месяц назад
That added sound effect is lame. That's not how gas turbine engines sound, that's how turbjet engines sound with afterburner turned on.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Some, not all, of the sound is dubbed... but *ALL* of the sound is from the actual turbine locomotives. These were very loud machines, with the nickname Big Blows because of the sound. There's a guy in these comments who worked on these when he was with UP, and he says this is what they sounded like.
Tom Smith
Tom Smith Месяц назад
Turbins with Big Boy! What a beast train! This is why I love American trains, trains from other place are boring, compare to Americans.
Tom Smith
Tom Smith Месяц назад
+Railfan Depot Yeah, other trains do have their special interests, and not boring, like the engine of BR Class 55, very strange three bank triangle opposed-piston valveless 2-stoke engine. But I love big and powerful machines, I like the feeling when you reach the foot of a mountain, but you can see part of your train is still downhilling just from the side window; the train passing through the land bridge above your locomotive is actually the same train you are driving (like Tehachapi Loop); I can count cars to several hundred when wait a train clear the crossing.... Only North American trains can give such interesting facts.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I wouldn't say other trains are boring, but yes, these turbines are amazing and certainly not boring! I like seeing the Swiss "crocodiles" in action in the Alps... that is some heavy lifting and not boring!
Marry Ellen
Marry Ellen Месяц назад
I am always amazed how the engineers could make all those different engines run at exactly the same speed. If one is pulling at a different speed you would get buffeting and break couplers or derailments.
Leon Allan Davis
Leon Allan Davis Месяц назад
A foamer chick?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot 29 дней назад
DeAnn here... yes, I like trains! I don't know if I would call myself a foamer, but I grew up near trains (Grand Trunk mostly) in Muskegon (Michigan) and my father and now husband are both into trains. My husband also does model trains, so I like to dabble in the scenery stuff too.
1979cl1
1979cl1 Месяц назад
Are any of these turbin powered locos still exist in a railroad museum?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
#18 is preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum. I understand it is a cosmetic restoration... but ti looks fantastic!
Henry Ostman
Henry Ostman Месяц назад
It would seem that they could put engine trucks under the tender and get more tractive effort, in effect, the weight would be a bonus rather than a drag, did they ever try this? A big bonus to diesels is that all of the engine weight is on the drivers including the fuel while a steamer is pulling a heavy tender that is doing nothing to help, steamers also have pilot and trailing wheelsets that are unpowered and often carrying a lot of weight, the Pennsy 6 4 4 6s topped out this with more than half the weight on unpowered wheels PLUS a tender. Gas turbines would better at higher altitudes but we don't have any mountain lines high enough for that to matter. Another factor is that they don't throttle down efficiently, even at idle they are still burning a lot of fuel, diesels burn very little fuel at idle. I guess they could just shut down the turbines on the downhill, turbines start up quickly and can go to full power almost immediately, this would be a bad idea in a diesel.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Good thoughts on this and I'm no expert, but I wonder how the variable weight would affect handling and pulling power, as the fuel was used and the load changed.
Struinzu Vaffencullo
Struinzu Vaffencullo Месяц назад
Lol ok youtube! There i watched it!
Cary Huff
Cary Huff Месяц назад
When pulling trains with 20,000hp 3:31 I'm surprised that the couplers could withstand the strain, and didn't break more often. New subscriber. Found you on Instagram first. Thanks for posting these videos.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
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Thomas Kornman
Thomas Kornman Месяц назад
5:26 CO2 emission my ass
Randolfo Romero
Randolfo Romero Месяц назад
No EGR 😂😂
Wag2112
Wag2112 Месяц назад
Very Nice Video !
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thank you for the kind words!!
Denise Hunt
Denise Hunt Месяц назад
Excellent footage. Many thanks.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thank you for watching!!
Erik N
Erik N Месяц назад
I bet those sounded great when starting the turbine
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I know they were... very .... LOUD! :-)
Stealthpanther1
Stealthpanther1 Месяц назад
It's time for turbine powered locomotives to return, especially now with advances in jet engine technology :-)
Stealthpanther1
Stealthpanther1 Месяц назад
It would be fun to see and music to my ears :-)
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I'd have to wonder if a jet engine turbine, using aviation fuel which is common now, would stay on the tracks! :-)
Urban Hesse
Urban Hesse Месяц назад
I was in the 7 grade in grade school .. Living in a small town St. Mary's KS. 25 miles west of Topeka . on hw 24 .. And UP RR . Denver line .. Well a diesel electric locomotive engines derailed at St Mary's elevator so there was a crew there working for about 4 days getting the locomotive lift it back up and hauled out of there and then that train cars set there for almost another week then one day I was walking home from school about 3:30 in the afternoon when I came up to the crossing and where the train had the engine derailed at ..and right then along came this great big huge locomotive that was just kind of strange how it maneuvering itself around it hook up to the train and then it backed up and got some of the other cars that were in between where the streets crossings is splitting apart about four times you know and then they got ready to go and this thing was huge man !!!🐳 and it wasthat big whirlybird you know and I didn't know what it was till 2009 ..I never seen one before or dance. but they start giving that thing some gas and it started 😯 roaring and they gave it more gas and started roaring even harder and then they gave it a whole bunch more gas and then the whole neighborhood was shaking that in my guts from trembling and I tell you what it was😃 it was awesome and I never forgot that and that was back in about in the late fall of .1969
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Yep, that's how operaters described the turbines... It earned them the nickname "Big Blows".
turbojer1
turbojer1 Месяц назад
I play with jet engines for a hobby and presently have a J-69 mounted in a Chevy mini van. The J-69 is a small engine of only around 1000 pounds of thrust. At 100% throttle it burns 2.96 gallons of fuel per minute. So, I must agree, fuel consumption is quite an issue . It has nixed turbine autos, turbine semis, and turbine tractors (farmers are in business to make money you know). turbojer.com
turbojer1
turbojer1 Месяц назад
Oh right. I forgot about his Chrysler turbine car. He has one called the Eco Boost also and of course the Y2K motorcycle. All turbine powered.+Helium Road
Helium Road
Helium Road Месяц назад
+turbojer1 Um, not the car I'm talking about, it's a stock Chrysler Turbine car with the factory engine in it.
turbojer1
turbojer1 Месяц назад
Yes, but he should of gotten help from more experienced turbine people. He is using a helicopter engine and rather than making a good throttle control he was using brakes to slow down against the running engine. They tore up the first transmission and had to go to much larger brakes. Nice body though. They had to take some unusual designs for his Y2K turbine motorcycle. To slow down quickly, as in coming to a curve, he had a switch on the handlebar to disconnect the engine from the drive train. Typical electric clutch as in a lawn tractor. Have you looked up "dream cars"? One of the cars is called the Ghia "Gilda". I helped choose the engine and drive train for it. But, still not really road worthy. +Helium Road
Helium Road
Helium Road Месяц назад
Jay Leno has a turbine car that is one of the coolest cars ever. Look up his video on it. Like most of his collection, he drives it around sometimes.
SportsRGreat
SportsRGreat Месяц назад
This is fake. It is a video of a model train
Robert Heinkel
Robert Heinkel Месяц назад
I read somewhere they were hell on tunnels. The turbine exhaust was so hot blowing on the roof of the tunnels, it would blast off chunks of concrete.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Interesting, I've not heard that... But I can certainly see that happening!!
flutist218
flutist218 Месяц назад
Wow. Thank you for this. I have never seen a turbine locomotive. Were these turbine engines similar to those found in Jet aircraft of the time? Pratt and Whitney or General Electric engines?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thanks for the note and kind words. :-) Because of the fuel used, heavy Bunker C fuel oil, they were quite a bit different in design.
Satyanarayanmurti Katta
Satyanarayanmurti Katta Месяц назад
It is so powerful locomotives but retired very soon. Why don't UP continued it further when they were good enough.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There is a quite a bit of discussion here about that, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
louislungbubble
louislungbubble Месяц назад
I completed 38 years service on the railways in Australia , since early retirement watching material like this is bittersweet , I suppose nostalgia is always like that , great days when you could say you were a real "railway man" , I don't think that title can be applied today in the same spirit .
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
What a great career!! There are a lot of railway men (and women) working the rails today.
Mehmet Ertum
Mehmet Ertum Месяц назад
Forgive me for lack of knowledge , but I want to know whether all separate loco units are driven by another team or from one center ?
Mehmet Ertum
Mehmet Ertum Месяц назад
+Railfan Depot Thanks a lot for your kind response .. I simply love trains but steam engines at most !!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
In a multiple unit train, with the units wired for MU service, there will be one crew, in the lead locomotive.
Colin Johnston
Colin Johnston Месяц назад
If it was the greatest locomotive how come it only lasted 14 years??
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There is a quite a bit of discussion here about that, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
TommyTwobats
TommyTwobats Месяц назад
Didn’t know turbines were used. Furthermore, that they were occasionally coupled with steam locos. I wonder how they coordinated the power.
Thegoodtom 1
Thegoodtom 1 20 дней назад
Bet the loco crew just busted a$$ and held on for dear life
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There had to be two excellent, well trained, well seasoned, crews working each locomotive, the steam and the turbine.
FRANsylvania Maple
FRANsylvania Maple Месяц назад
Something like that would never comply with today's emission standards. Look at everything that they have to do to diesel engines now to get them to comply.
Helium Road
Helium Road Месяц назад
+Ferroequus Domain They can't?
Ferroequus Domain
Ferroequus Domain Месяц назад
Today's diesels can do everything.... except haul the tonnage reliably.
Anthony Handcock
Anthony Handcock Месяц назад
Why do Americans say 'turbin' instead of 'turbine'?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
+Anthony Handcock Oh yes, wasn't it George Bernard Shaw that said England and America are two countries separated by a common language? Although the English invented English, we Americans have continued to screw around with it! :-)
Anthony Handcock
Anthony Handcock Месяц назад
+Railfan Depot Indeed... There is the American way and the right way. See also alumin*i*um and *h*erb God save the queen! ;-) Being serious I think British English started as tur-bin but it's universally tur-byne these days.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Merriam-Webster shows it as tur-bun... but maybe more importantly there is a comment from a guy in this discussion who builds turbines and he says half the factory uses one pronunciation and the other half the other pronunciation. :-) The Brits definitely say tur-byne. So, it's just something that is pronounced differently by different folks. :-)
Roger Alsop
Roger Alsop Месяц назад
Magnificent!
Michele C
Michele C Месяц назад
Very nice media
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thanks!!
The Q
The Q Месяц назад
Would be amazing to get one of those suckers fired up.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
+The Q Because of the fuel used, and no ramjet, the turbines used in these monsters are quite a bit different than jet turbines... but, I am sure you are correct, UP certainly could and given enough passion and time, there are hobbyists who could at least have a good go at it. :-)
The Q
The Q Месяц назад
+Railfan Depot There are nutjobs who build jet engines and use them to power go karts. It cant really be that hard. BTW they use a turnbine to turn the wheels via a chain:
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
It sure would be... but I can not even imagine the expertise needed for such a job.
Chessie System Railfanman
Chessie System Railfanman Месяц назад
I love it, absolute raw power on the rails. Good thing the EPA did not exist then otherwise these locomotives would not have seen the light of day. Great video, thank you.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thank you for the kind words! :-)
David nappi YouTube Nappi
David nappi YouTube Nappi Месяц назад
I Love Trains its need to know how much horsepower they have cuz it's a kid always wondered how much power they had five to ten thousand horsepower wow that's probably with a lot of engines but I love trains I like to watch the movie Runaway Train with Jon Voight and Chattanooga Choo Choo with George Kennedy
Mick Carson
Mick Carson Месяц назад
Nothing new. It's just like going back to pollution like the good old steam trains.
Paul Ayers
Paul Ayers Месяц назад
I see alot of familiar places alongside the videos of this Documentation from Rail fans
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Great! I am glad we can bring back some happy memories on the area and your Brother-in-Law. :-)
Paul Ayers
Paul Ayers Месяц назад
I spent many days here in SE Wyoming and Sherman Hill! My Late Brother In Law William Bill Riley Sr operated out of NP Nebraska to Cheyenne Wyoming, he even operated UP8444 and is Posthumously received the Golden Spike Award!
Hobby Electronics
Hobby Electronics Месяц назад
Steam engines and jet engines together. What a time it must have been to see that transition in person !
Robert Sparkes
Robert Sparkes 20 дней назад
Been there done that...I loved/love steam and was torn when things began to change...Steam vs Diesel is like Land line vs Cell I guess you can't get away with the old for long....
Ron Troy
Ron Troy Месяц назад
That was an amazing site, huge steam and a turbine!
Lance Baker
Lance Baker Месяц назад
It was!!!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I agree! 1950 to 1970 would have been a railfan's dream!
J Barta
J Barta Месяц назад
I remember seeing Amtrak running a turbine in Ann Arbor, Mi in the 70's. I think it was Chicago to Detroit route. i don't know where else they were. I remember standing on the bridge above them sometimes when they would come through.
Herbie and Missi
Herbie and Missi 8 дней назад
In the northeast they had the Turbotrain, built buy Bombardier. They were serviced in RI, my dad used to drive us down to see it. Seem to remember there were a lot of breakdowns. It had a version of the PT6, one the most reliable aircraft engines ever.
John Plampin
John Plampin 21 день назад
And from Chicago to St. Louis.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Yep, those were the Turboliners. There were a couple of designs, 6 sets were even delivered with European style couplers and buffers. They were a much different design than the UP turbines. They also ran on the "Empire Corridor" in New York.
Bram Moerman
Bram Moerman Месяц назад
Wondering. . . If they were so great, why were the retired after just 15 years?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There is a quite a bit of discussion here about that, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
Eric Glatz
Eric Glatz Месяц назад
I believe UP found these too inefficient and took them out of servce.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Yes, it was a combination of factors including inefficiency and the higher cost of the Bunker C fuel oil they used.
Animal tvi
Animal tvi Месяц назад
Wouldn't have thort a big boy needed help. Or was it pushing the diesel ?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
At this time the Big Boy, sadly, would likely have been relegated to pusher service, though it's hard to say for sure.
Thomas Caldwell
Thomas Caldwell Месяц назад
I remember watching the New Turbines being tested on General Electric's test tracks when I was young in 1955 to 1958 I grew up on outskirts of Erie Pa what a site to see they wore
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
That was a great place to be for a railfan!!
Robert Gift
Robert Gift Месяц назад
Poor video. Why notell how turbinengines operated? Tractiveffort compared to other locomotives? Why retired?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thanks for the input. This is less an explainer video on turbines than a look back at the history of these units. Having said that, there is in the video some information about these units and why they were retired. Basically, there were a number of reasons for the Union Pacific retiring these turbines. The increasing cost of Bunker C fuel oil, maintenence costs and the increasing utility of multiple-unit diesels as higher power diesels can on line. More info on the DVD. I'm sorry you found this video lacking.
barry noble
barry noble Месяц назад
wow!! great video....talk about SUPERPOWER...well here it is.!!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thanks! We're working on more videos. :-)
Sterlingjob
Sterlingjob Месяц назад
Turbines not turbans.....idiot
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Merriam-Webster shows it as tur-bun... but maybe more importantly there is a comment from a guy in this discussion who builds turbines and he says half the factory uses one pronunciation and the other half the other pronunciation. :-) The Brits definitely say tur-byne. So, it's just something that is pronounced differently by different folks. :-)
Robert Hoovan
Robert Hoovan Месяц назад
That what u call rolling cole
Theother RayJ
Theother RayJ Месяц назад
One of my favorite locomotives
Steve Seely
Steve Seely Месяц назад
This type of channel is the way to create more rail fans. Keep up the good work, and thank you!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Thanks!! We're going to keep it up... more railfans is great!!
Adderall vs
Adderall vs Месяц назад
A gas turbine combined with a big boy? That lash up would be incredible to see.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I think we see exactly that at the 43 second mark. It is either a Big Boy or a Challenger right behind the turbine going into Hermosa Tunnel. Check it out: ruvid.net/video/видео-spngeetQfRI.html?t=43
david knapp
david knapp Месяц назад
I fell in love with trains at age 10 on a trip from Cedar Rapids to Portland Oregon in the Domeliner. Wow! What a feeling. Thanks!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
My first train was an O Scale from my Dad when I was very, very young. Since then I graduated to 1:1 scale. :-)
BNSF Bandit
BNSF Bandit Месяц назад
Those GP9B's are so cool! They ran the GP9B'S with the DD40X also
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I always liked B units, nothing but power, no control, no extras... Just power.
Marry Ellen
Marry Ellen Месяц назад
The pure heaven of the sound of the Big Boy.
Marry Ellen
Marry Ellen Месяц назад
the noise level was way beyond tolerance.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
It was VERY loud. Yep, no doubt.
NJP Vlogs -N- Stuff
NJP Vlogs -N- Stuff Месяц назад
You know...I see a lot of videos like this where the people posting it basically forget about it and never interact with the comment section. I want to take a moment and thank Railfan Depot for interacting with many of us here in the comments, Good on you. BTW, love the video as well. :)
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
You are most welcome... we are railfans too, so we enjoy the comments and the back and forth.
Erich Heyde
Erich Heyde Месяц назад
I love the big blows ! One drawback that I have not seen mentioned is, like steam They had to be turned at the end of a run
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Good detail... yes, there were operational issues, like this, that limited the turbines to where they could run (Trained crew, special facilities).
IYAAYAS
IYAAYAS Месяц назад
I wonder how a Rolls Royce Tyne powered engine would work out. 4500 HP
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
+IYAAYAS I don't think an E or F units frame would be able to do it... I mean they were built for 1,500HP. Maybe an old U50 frame... or better yet, a DDA40X! :-)
IYAAYAS
IYAAYAS Месяц назад
+Railfan Depot wish I had the money and the frame to test something, maybe and old E or F, like this on. I was thinking the marine turbines run on diesel.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I imagine the tough piece of engineering would be making it so the frame would stay in one piece and on the track! Well, that and the expensive (aviation?) fuel. :-D
jpsholland
jpsholland Месяц назад
Sadly there is a constant growl sound like a high flying B-52 jet bomber. I think the real sound is more like a turbo diesel without the diesel.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
This is actual gas turbine sound. Some recorded in camera at the time, some recorded at the time separately and some added later (depends on the original video/film footage). As for sounding like a plane, that was one of the drawbacks of this locomotive, earning it the nickname "Big Blow".
Malcolm Smith
Malcolm Smith Месяц назад
Awesome Railroad power!!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
The UP turbines were truly awesome, groundbreaking machines... yes, the railroad world moved on, but that does not take away from all these engines were/are.
Rod Fromleftfield
Rod Fromleftfield Месяц назад
Fantastic video! Union Pacific is my favorite railroad behind the Pennsylvania, they had such an incredible assortment of motive power. I so wish we did like the days of old and experimented with varying types of powerplants!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Yes, both the UP and PRR liked to experiment with motive power!
The guy that likes gacha !
The guy that likes gacha ! Месяц назад
1:14 American Flying Scotsmen
Kieron Cousins
Kieron Cousins Месяц назад
Doesn’t even come close
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Love those fire breathing dragons!! :-)
John Hull
John Hull Месяц назад
Let them gas turbines eat....
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
They have a voracious appetite. :-)
Robert McDonnold
Robert McDonnold Месяц назад
Why weren't new ones ordered to replace the old ones?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
They became uneconomical...there is a quite a bit of discussion here about that, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility (vs multiple unit diesel configurations) and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
Craig Mitchell38
Craig Mitchell38 Месяц назад
I had a Video about Sherman Hill years ago but i lost it thanks for sharing this Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
We're happy to provide this video! The entire DVD is very interesting... includes steam and the double diesels on the hill too. rfd.vido/Battle Sherman
Albert Abdukhanov
Albert Abdukhanov Месяц назад
Beautiful and lovely.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Agreed! :-)
NE Railfan 812
NE Railfan 812 Месяц назад
I gotta be completely honest, I’ve never been interested in the GTELs. Nevertheless, they looked nice, I guess.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
They look.... massive and interesting! :-)
Ernest Mc Allister
Ernest Mc Allister Месяц назад
A turban is what an Indian wears on his head. These engines are tur-bines. Emphasis on the "i". Americans don't speak properly.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I believe it was George Bernard Shaw that said "England and America are two countries separated by the same language" :-) We also say DE-po... Long E... the British say Depo... short e. Maybe we can all agree that these turbines, no matter how you say it, are fantastic machines!?
Go MGTOW
Go MGTOW Месяц назад
The Turbines used Bunker-C fuel, which is a WASTE byproduct of oil refining, so the fuel was so cheap to buy it was essentially 'FREE FUEL'. But at the same time the fuel was so full of deposits that those deposits soon destroyed the turbine's blades and the cost of overhaulting those engines negated some of the benefits of the free fuel. But what really did the engines is was the fact that they could not meet future exhaust emissions requirements while diesel could.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There is a quite a bit of discussion here about what did these massive machines in, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
10832894
10832894 Месяц назад
Outstanding Units , tremendous power .
Shawn Hayward
Shawn Hayward Месяц назад
Is this just an American thing to pronounce it “turban” instead of the proper “tur-byne” pronunciation?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
The short answer is, yes. Although the word is pronounced both ways here n the USA. I've had so much comment on the pronunciation I looked it up... if you trust Merriam-Webster, at least in America, it is tur-bun: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/turbine On the other hand, for the British speaking world, remember it was apparently George Bernard Shaw that said "England and America are two countries separated by the same language" :-)
Robert Stark
Robert Stark Месяц назад
Talk about filthy from top to bottom, both looks and exhaust, shows why we needed to make the air quality advancements made unfortunetly by regulations.
Bill Conserva
Bill Conserva Месяц назад
So, if they were that good, what happened to them?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
There is a quite a bit of discussion here about that, so you can look and see if other folks offer more than I do, but basically it was a combination of things: Designed to run on Bunker C Fuel Oil when that product was cheap, Bunker C became more expensive as the years went on (more uses found for it, some plastics, etc) and these things drank fuel as if it came from a fire hose. Then there was the inflexibility and incompatibility with other units. So, you could really only run these on routes designed to handle the mechanical and fuel needs of this locomotive. Lastly, diesel fuel became cheaper and diesels more flexible and powerful. There is some more in the video and, like I said, others chime in here in the discussion, including a guy who ran these!
pvcarmon1
pvcarmon1 Месяц назад
Why did they cease turbine technology in trains? How did it not take off? Way less moving parts and weight they are perfered in power plants why?
Michael Plumb
Michael Plumb 19 дней назад
What about doing coverage on the coal turbines?
Alex Thomas
Alex Thomas Месяц назад
Ron Troy probably - but it’s not ideal for turbines, I suppose (unlike aircraft) the volume and carriage of the fuel isn’t an issue for trains. You still have the issues of noise and efficiency though - they’re powerful for their size, but NOT efficient vs. fuel consumption unfortunately.
Ron Troy
Ron Troy Месяц назад
+Alex Thomas Could you design one today to run on CNG?
Mick Carson
Mick Carson Месяц назад
I think you missed the point. People did say fuel consumption was the reason and noise was next when driving/working in the city.
John Hull
John Hull Месяц назад
#6 Bunker is a huge pita to work with too....gotta be about 200 degrees just to pump the stuff and then requires atomizing steam to get through burner nozzle in the combustor can
SSG Pentland
SSG Pentland Месяц назад
uses way too much fuel. An LM1500 gas turbine burns more than 40 gallons per min 1.965 lb/(lbf·h) (200 kg/(kN·h)) to make its 10MW (13,000 bhp) of power. While this is ALOT of power, it is way too much for a locomotive aplication and burning that much fuel is why they needed to pull a swimming pool of fuel with them. The Turbines were a cool idea, but fuel comsumption was the killer
John Hull
John Hull 18 дней назад
+Grapes767 very true...
Grapes767
Grapes767 27 дней назад
Bunker C fuel oil was probably 5-7 cents a gallon back then.Jet turbine fuel was 10-12 cents. Refiners were thrilled to get someone to take it at that price back then. The technology to take lower grade residual oils and crack higher value gasoline did not exist then.
smiffy1071
smiffy1071 29 дней назад
Gary Quail British small aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal, used 3 rolls Royce Olympus engines (same as Concorde) as its motive power...
kutzbill
kutzbill Месяц назад
+Xysix The powerplant near my old house near Fort Lupton Co. had 5 turbines used for electric generation. The old Nuclear plant Fort St. Vrain has been changed over to 5 turbines also. Both plants use natural gas as they set on a very large natural gas field. I had to get used to the smell when they were running, as it produced a smell much like hot antifreeze.
John Hull
John Hull Месяц назад
+Xysix aeroderivatives is the proper nomenclature...although it is very odd they were fired on #6 bunker, probably due to price/btu value....although it's a real PITA to burn
Alex Paumen
Alex Paumen Месяц назад
3:23. So basically if Turbine 18 is restored, it can pull a world record 734 CARS?!
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
I have no idea on the math, and I doubt that number, but these things were massively powerful. They were designed to take long trains up the systems worst grades... they were powerful!
William Kirkland
William Kirkland Месяц назад
That IRON HORSE is more than awesome. I've always loved the old steemers but have never seen one in person as massive as the one in this video, where are they now? Thanks for sharing.
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
The biggest on the UP, and seen with the turbines in this video were the Big Boy series and the Challenger series. Both are fascinating, and thanks to the Union Pacific one of each is/will be in operating condition!
Minigunmann
Minigunmann Месяц назад
Wait big boy was still in use in 1950 ?
Railfan Depot
Railfan Depot Месяц назад
Oh yes, the last revenue run for a Big Boy was 1959.
Casey Limbert
Casey Limbert Месяц назад
A turbine and 3 diesels... Must've been a great sound
fhqwgads2
fhqwgads2 18 дней назад
You'd never hear the diesels. It would be like three kazoos next to a chainsaw!
gary scott
gary scott Месяц назад
i love the turbines as well
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