How One Conservative Texas Town Went 100% Renewable

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Georgetown, TX is a conservative city in the middle of oil and gas country that's committed to 100% renewable energy, and we could learn a lot from them.
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Oregon Cephaloproctic LLC
Oregon Cephaloproctic LLC 9 дней назад
The High Price of Green Posturing moonbattery.com/the-high-price-of-green-posturing/ 6 Feb 2019 Green posturing comes at a high price. Fortunately for pols, they aren’t the ones who pay it - we are (" Texas town’s environmental narcissism makes Al Gore happy while sticking its citizens with the bill" www.foxnews.com/opinion/texas-towns-environmental-narcissism-makes-al-gore-happy-while-sticking-its-citizens-with-the-bill ) Political leaders in a college town in central Texas won wide praise from former Vice President Al Gore and the larger Green Movement when they decided to go “100 percent renewable” seven years ago. Now, however, they are on the defensive over electricity costs that have their residents paying more than $1,000 per household in higher electricity charges over the last four years. That’s right - $1,219 per household in higher electricity costs for the 71,000 residents of Georgetown, Texas, all thanks to the decision of its Republican mayor, Dale Ross, to launch a bold plan to shift the city’s municipal utility to 100 percent renewable power in 2012 when he was on the city council. … His decision to bet on renewables resulted in the city budget getting dinged by a total of $29.8 million in the four years from 2015 to 2018. Georgetown’s electric costs were $3.5 million over budget in 2015, ballooning to $6.3 million in 2016, the same year the mayor locked his municipal utility into 20- and 25-year wind and solar energy contracts to make good on his 100 percent renewable pledge Here’s what residents got for the money: Ross was elevated to celebrity status, appearing in scores of articles and videos, both at home and abroad. Al Gore made it a point to feature the Texas Republican mayor at renewable energy conferences as well. Ross was even featured in one of Gore’s documentaries They must be so proud - even if the 100% renewable energy claim is “nothing more than spurious sloganeering” because “wind and solar power can’t be relied on to keep the lights on 24/7/365.” After AOC and the rest of the radicalized Democrats take power, the whole country may be as proud - and as broke - as the residents of Georgetown, Texas.
Gandwanamumma 15 дней назад
Look at the plastic bottles, so you are not Zero Waste??? This is just as big a problem for the EARTH s future and clean and grean planet!
David Beaulieu
David Beaulieu 25 дней назад
Still hate conservatives but him not so much. Should be a progressive
Jake Norrie
Jake Norrie Месяц назад
So proud of my little city!
Gamma Ray
Gamma Ray Месяц назад
tuco james
tuco james Месяц назад
City Al Gore Featured in Movie Is Losing Millions After Going 100% Green Energy ruvid.net/video/видео-L4eeHpsAXaA.html&t=8s&pbjreload=10
THE SILENT GOD Месяц назад
Actually, according to latest reports, this town is losing big money due to their variable renewables plan...
Mr. Boomguy
Mr. Boomguy Месяц назад
Best republican mayer I have seen.
Jake Месяц назад
Please please please! I’m begging all elected officials, regardless of party affiliation, make decisions based on facts. The stereotypes associated with what you are ‘supposed’ to believe or choose based on affiliation are extremely damaging!! This is a perfect example of fact based decisions regardless of affiliation and stereotypes.
Amy Sternheim
Amy Sternheim 2 месяца назад
This is like the coal mining history museum in Kentucky that put up solar panels to save long term money.
rockenrollbass 2 месяца назад
"It's not rocket science." Tell that to ted Cruz and your Republican buds.
Sergio Díaz Nila
Sergio Díaz Nila 2 месяца назад
the words we use affect our thinking, and i'm convinced USA is hurting itself a lot by the false equivalence that liberal equals democrat. No, Liberal is not any random person that says "i'm a liberal" and then joins a party and then adopts the party agenda. No a Liberal is anyone that follows any of the branches of the general ideology of Liberalism, like Economic Liberalism (What Adam Smith created) or Classical Liberalism (what Austrian School created) or NeoLiberalism (more Austrian School Economists defending Classical Liberalism) or Social Democracy (Keynesianism) Both Republicans & Democrats are Liberals.
Itoro Okon
Itoro Okon 2 месяца назад
Not everybody on Earth has access to electricity.
ELK 2 месяца назад
Never mind that Williamson County voted for Beto O'Rourke over Ted Cruz and voted for the Democrat over Republican incumbent John Carter. Yeah, so much for that mumbo jumbo about being in the hotbed of conservatism. And forget about how we've been told for over a century how oil is a fossil fuel and how it's a depleting resource all the while oil pockets keep refilling and we have ample amounts of oil. There's some fact based science that repeatedly observable but who cares about real science right?
Appaloosa Dreams
Appaloosa Dreams 2 месяца назад
I'm a die hard Bernie Sanders' fan and I love this guy!!!
THE SILENT GOD 2 месяца назад
100% Renewables is not our real goal, our real goal is quitting fossil fuels and switching to 100% clean energy. insisting blindly on 100%renewables and opposing, excluding nuclear, which is a very powerful empirically proven tool, will mean winning the fight against climate change will be practically impossible.
THE SILENT GOD 2 месяца назад
in other words, it's only 100% renewable if you ignore the fact that most of the energy in the grid still comes from fossil fuels. this is just a cheap world play, it is not a real 100% renewable electricity town. you are misleading people
Greg Kientop
Greg Kientop 2 месяца назад
If you understand intermittency, then you should also be aware also of battery banks, flywheel energy storage, pumped hydro storage, compressed air storage, and soon... super capacitors. Any SMART grid will have these to balance intermittency. Still attached to your dumb grid? Can't help you there. If your thinking is still intermittently stuck in the 1900s, look them up. No magic bullets, -the magic is in the final result. The resulting grid is more complicated, but also more resilient and adaptable.
Mario D. Zmaj
Mario D. Zmaj 3 месяца назад
praising republicans for going clean is like praising a junkie for not shooting dope up their veins. Like, I got through my whole life without using dope, where are my compliments?
Andrei Canonazo
Andrei Canonazo 3 месяца назад
6:35 I think Yeah
Norbert Baylon
Norbert Baylon 3 месяца назад
This story makes me smile....my faith in humanity is restored(a bit but at least)
penguins forall
penguins forall 3 месяца назад
That kind of business deal is called collective bargaining. The more you know.
fuckfannyfiddlefart 3 месяца назад
Now the mayor just needs to go 100% whole food vegan!
Dhindara Vrel
Dhindara Vrel 3 месяца назад
That's precisely what we need to do to get those aboard who care only about the bottom line and nothing else - bring the price of carbon emissions up to make sure they're no longer competitive.
Moses Jonson
Moses Jonson 3 месяца назад
I want London to go down Georgetown path, 🙏 hopefully, we will reach that goal of 100% green energy in London, I hope more LNDNers will turn to more Hybrids and pure EV cars. Other than that I love this.
Moses Jonson
Moses Jonson 3 месяца назад
finally, Republicans are wising up ( a few of them, to say the least).
kor'vre 3 месяца назад
Short but entertaining videos iDrEs
Short but entertaining videos iDrEs 3 месяца назад
That’s nice , keep it up!
Russell Fine Arts
Russell Fine Arts 3 месяца назад
Virtually all new utility power generation contracts are solar and wind so in the very near future, the entire U.S. grid will be renewable energy, it's inevitable.
Field 3 месяца назад
I love how your voice gets slightly lower when you're talking to the mayor vs. in the cut aways
Greg Simones
Greg Simones 3 месяца назад
Fantastic job on this video. I hope to use this in my college class. You will actually find that most Republicans are open to innovation and certainly good business and being accountable to their citizens. I am a Conservative minded scientist but politics never colors my teaching as science and fact are sacred to me.
Brandon Musser
Brandon Musser 3 месяца назад
conservatives like the environment to you know
panstriato2 3 месяца назад
Great for the town. Please stop calling electrical energy just energy.
Fynn Schumann
Fynn Schumann 3 месяца назад
Another problem in the US is that a lot of energy is wasted, like the fan in the shop.There you could install a motion sensor, the same with fridges, light bulbs and of course in industrial processes.
TurambarFR 3 месяца назад
Well, they still seem to have a lot of big cars...
Phlaked Corn
Phlaked Corn 3 месяца назад
Definitely not 100% renewable, maybe if they all gave up their cars, and actually generated and stored the electricity and made all of the own food and goods, instead they are buying the electricity from a source that literally couldn't supply 100% renewable, using oil for their cars and buying products shipped from around the world.
Tim Jadeglans
Tim Jadeglans 3 месяца назад
about 30% of all energy used is oil even when the grid is 100% renewable. Mostly because of cars and trucks. But at least the argument "electric cars aren't better because the energy comes from coal" gets a lot smaller and hopefully makes the transition easier
Ethan Wetter
Ethan Wetter 3 месяца назад
This made me feel really good
ArthursHD 3 месяца назад
It is great, but 100% renewable electricity ≠ 100% green/renewable energy. Heating/cooling and transportation is not included. Let alone footprint of goods and services.
καμιά ψυχή
καμιά ψυχή 3 месяца назад
Where's that "why Texas has its own electric grid" video? ¶=
Mihai Bica
Mihai Bica 3 месяца назад
Now if he could set another example and hit the gym and a diet...
Topaz Nora
Topaz Nora 3 месяца назад
Unlike Democrats, he didnt force the entire city to spend their own money to buy solar panels they dont need. He didnt infringe on the free will of his citizens just to go green.... liberals take notes! No tax raises, no infringement!
fireofenergy 3 месяца назад
How does Georgetown get it's clean energy at night when the wind isn't blowing? They use credits that buy even more RE during the day or windy times. However, there's only so many credits to go around. Not all of America (or world) will be able to power themselves 100% _all the time_ unless MORE is built, much more. And then, put most of that extra into storage. Now, it ain't cheap. This is why we need to just demand a *molten salt reactor for every town.* Screw the fossil fuels backup, which is most of the time (not "just a little backup").
Christian Lassen
Christian Lassen 3 месяца назад
I usually vote Republican and love this guy and everything he represents in this interview. This is how to win the environmental debate: it has to make sense for the individual as well as the community/nation. Republicans aren't against the environment, we just don't want the community at large to trounce or put down the individual. And no,the individual isn't more important than the community, they are equal. That's a hard balance to make and compromise and concessions need to be made in both directions. When going green makes financial sense, everyone will do it, or almost everyone. Without coercion.
Kalvin N
Kalvin N 3 месяца назад
does nuclear ount as renewable according to these renewable energy credits
THE SILENT GOD 2 месяца назад
it's all semantics. plus, our goal is clean energy anyway, not 100%renewables. so, nuclear should be deployed regardless
salle rc
salle rc 3 месяца назад
What does $18 per MW really means? (@2:32) Doesn't make sense.
Gege Bubu
Gege Bubu 3 месяца назад
Great video, great story. But when saying that the town runs on "100% renewable *energy*", you really mean that it runs on 100% *electricity*. Energy would include industrial processes, transport, agriculture etc.. 100% renewable energy would be totally amazing (while 100% renewable electricity is great nonetheless!).
Mikes Science
Mikes Science 3 месяца назад
Let's move this mayor up in politics!
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
Can you generate power from hot sauce?
Michael Chadband
Michael Chadband 3 месяца назад
And then you see the vehicles. A good start but a long way to go
Wyndham Coffman
Wyndham Coffman 3 месяца назад
"We let the facts dictate the best decision" Republicans haven't used facts in twenty years; he is clearly an independent in disguise as a Republican.
Kristen McPherson
Kristen McPherson 3 месяца назад
Joe, your accent is coming out.
DuizhangLu 3 месяца назад
Damn, Joe is reeeeally tall
SuicideBunny6 3 месяца назад
As a chili lover, I'm jealous of that Hot Sauce Shop
SuicideBunny6 3 месяца назад
"Clean water, clean air is not a Republican or a Democrat issue, it's an American issue." IT'S A GLOBAL ISSUE
Digital Nation
Digital Nation Месяц назад
in case you didnt know, america = the world, outside america = the rest of the world.
John Piontkowski
John Piontkowski 3 месяца назад
why didnt you mention anything about their giant storage battery on Rabbit Hill. 10MWh (and growing)
TheGino820 3 месяца назад
The problem is that when there aren't sun and wind you can't produce elettricity by renewable and you have to produce whit fossil fuel, we need new tecnology and storage system
TheGino820 3 месяца назад
Every night there isn't sun, and in winter there is less sun than in summer. And the wind is not so continuative. The tides are another story...
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
Are there really that many days where there isn't sun *or* wind? As long as the earth is spinning (I said it!!) and the moon is there, there will be both, not to mention tides.
jan schilling
jan schilling 3 месяца назад
jan schilling
jan schilling 3 месяца назад
W.D. Callahan
W.D. Callahan 3 месяца назад
I would love to hear the story of how and why Texas has its own power grid.
Randolph Thomas II
Randolph Thomas II 3 месяца назад
I'm okay with this. Nice to see an R with common sense -- at least in the energy department. We'll see about the rest.
Amuzic 3 месяца назад
Green Energy being a political agenda really looks silly to the rest of the world which is not america. In other countries, the opposition to green energy mainly comes from corporates and not politicians. It's time america(both democrats and republicans) to move beyond the idea that green energy being democrat or a liberal thing. Cheers to that cheery Mayor.
Linus Fondin
Linus Fondin 3 месяца назад
I Love that guy! (the mayor)
help me
help me 3 месяца назад
Hey, way to go Georgetown!!!
Toshihiko Tanaka
Toshihiko Tanaka 3 месяца назад
It's always nice to have someone in power that execute decisions based on facts and reality. In his conservative perspective, the fact that renewable energy provider gave his town a better deal than traditional ones is a very sensible option, and he took it. I wish all politician from any ideology and platform could think and act like him, the society will benefit more.
Marco Pohl
Marco Pohl 3 месяца назад
why wasn't he the republican candidate instead of trumpuss!?
Mivichi 3 месяца назад
Dude, I want to go to that hot sauce shop.
Danny Tangelo
Danny Tangelo 3 месяца назад
elad lerner
elad lerner 3 месяца назад
I want to expend on that quote: "It's not an American problem, it's not a Chinese problem. It's a Humanity problem."
SPalash 3 месяца назад
Texas is the best state in America!
Marlena Stepkowska
Marlena Stepkowska 3 месяца назад
Ok, I gonna recommend it to people now
Edward Doernberg
Edward Doernberg 3 месяца назад
there was an aspect missing from this episode. how are they dealing with production shortages (still air nights in the generating region)? the pool of water analogy doesn't quite work for electricity because the grid doesn't inherently have any storage capacity. there are storage options available (batteries, pumped hydro) but they are additional services you have to pay for. and the default solution for peak power demands and lulls in renewable production is gas turbines. before you say your power is 100% renewable you should have sourced a renewable solution to this problem. and I am disappointed that it wasn't mentioned in this episode.
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
Edward Doernberg They said that that facilities that generate the power aren't necessarily local. They pay the local provider a fixed amount for a given amount of energy. That energy must be generated by green means. The local provider sources a larger amount of green energy from various sources (the wind always blows somewhere!) and provides the required amount to Georgetown. Simple. Using the pool analogy. They pay the guy who owns the straw, he promises to pay the guy with the hose pump powered by green energy. If enough towns say they they will only buy straws through this pair (or similar) the ones with "coal powered pumps" must change. Are they not constructing wind AND solar installations (with batteries?) On oil land in Texas.
Hot Mess
Hot Mess 3 месяца назад
This is a good point to bring up. Grid operators are very good at anticipating production from renewables like wind and solar, and surprise shortages are rarely a problem in Texas these days. In addition, the combination of daytime solar peak production and nighttime wind peak production provides a dependable and fairly stable supply. Storage is ultimately necessary for a 100% renewable grid, but Texas engineers told me during prep for this episode that they can safely predict production enough to get the grid to 80% renewable without batteries. We’ll see!
8-Bit Raptor
8-Bit Raptor 3 месяца назад
Doesnt matter that tehir conservative.
ma5t 3 месяца назад
I don't think many electrons have been generated in power plants...
Nelson Swanberg
Nelson Swanberg 3 месяца назад
Belief is not knowledge. Faith is not fact. Science deniers Hold us all back. Honesty is not truth. “Science has liberated the ideas of those who read and reflect, and the American example has kindled feelings of right in the people.” - Thomas Jefferson
awesome steve
awesome steve 3 месяца назад
wait, electric grids? what about Alaska and the pacific territories what do they get?
shinchan the best
shinchan the best 3 месяца назад
TheyCallMeNewb 3 месяца назад
And a scintilla of optimism was born...
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
I hope that light bulb that just switched on is LED!
Artus Meyer-Toms
Artus Meyer-Toms 3 месяца назад
Buying 'renewable energy' on the electricity market does not change the carbon emissions output. Instead, other consumers who don't care about renewable buy more non-renewable energy on the market. That'a apart from the fact that wind and solar energy supply totally not correlate with a cities usual demand, so they are actually dependent from non-renewables when there is lack of wind and sunlight. Please, continue to promote renewable energy and other low CO2 power generation. But don't delude yourself by stating it comes with no cost.
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
It's cheaper. It *can* correlate with demand if buffered with storage. The next piece of the puzzle will be tidal energy.
hsiF A
hsiF A 3 месяца назад
The fact that this town exists makes me happy.
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
Consider consumption rates of countries per head capita. Where is America in that list? My point being, "we" (everyone, everywhere) needs to cut energy useage at *the same time* as changing the methods to obtain the energy, and the way its used. Its easy to change your lights at home to led. I've done it. 33 units, 150w if they're ALL on at once, at full power (they're all dimmable). Little things help. If a million homes did that, it's a LOT of power. The same with Aircon, heating. *Insulate* homes so they don't need the heating, or cooling, in the first place!
hsiF A
hsiF A 3 месяца назад
I’m Blue, btw.
Rob Babcock
Rob Babcock 3 месяца назад
Kind of sounds like an accounting trick since they're not really using much/any/entirely renewable. Still it's an effort.
Richard Jorissen
Richard Jorissen 3 месяца назад
solar requires ~50% overcapacity and wind ~30 % I am all for green futher, but our storage capacity/technologie isn't close to being enough if you want a full solar and wind energie sector. Maybe make a video about how we are going to cover this greenpower weakness In my opionion we push a side nuclear to fast, we need a solution fast, and nuclear is a necery evil in my opion. Sorry for my english
Roger Starkey
Roger Starkey 3 месяца назад
Add tidal. Add storage. REDUCE individual consumption.
mybellyisapinata 3 месяца назад
Came here for the environmental story, stayed for the flirty glances the mayor was giving the presenter in the hot sauce shop 🏳️‍🌈
LegoCookieDoggie 3 месяца назад
Yep, that's why I preach that the enviorment is NOT a bipartisan issue.
Annie G
Annie G 3 месяца назад
That was a really good description of buying energy off the grid without getting caught up in the minutia of renewable energy credits and community choice aggregation! From a girl studying renewable energy, ya’ll are doing a great job!
Brian Foulds
Brian Foulds 3 месяца назад
​+Annie G A simple mention that REC are how renewable energy is accounted for around 5 min. in when Joe says "renewable energy is as much an accounting thing as it is a clean electrons thing" would go a long way to educate the public and hold more utilities, companies and towns accountable for their claims of renewable electricity. Also here is a write up on the town website that states "Since April 2017, Georgetown has been 100 percent renewable based on the state’s system of accounting for renewable power based on renewable energy credits." So they are doing a great job. georgetown.org/2018/06/29/georgetowns-energy-100-percent-renewable-with-solar-plant/
Annie G
Annie G 3 месяца назад
+Brian Foulds Yes but to do that justice you would need a 30 minute video and you would lose 90% of the audience within the first few minutes. If the issue they wanted to tackle was RECs, that would be a very different video. And Georgetown must be retiring the RECs if they are allowed to claim their energy is renewable otherwise they wouldn't be able to say anything about its green attributes. I agree that greenwashing is a really big issue and unbundled RECs are problematic but I don't think that's where all the energy of a basic video like this should go towards.
Brian Foulds
Brian Foulds 3 месяца назад
Sorry Annie I totally disagree. Joe you do a lot of great videos but not explaining Renewable Energy Certificates (REC) is like saying it is OK for electricity suppliers to continue to greenwash this issue. REC "represent the environmental and other non-power attributes of renewable electricity generation" per EPA. (ruvid.net/video/видео-_12VYXms6-c.html) If Georgetown does not retire the REC, the owner of those REC is claiming the positive environmental attributes. This is double counting and only the owner of the REC has a valid claim. This kind of greenwashing is common and it is up to people like you to educate the public about these issues.
KwakWack 3 месяца назад
I'm moving to Georgetown
DtWolfwood 3 месяца назад
but to innovate is opposite to the word "conservative" So title should be Republican instead. pedant out
Zachary Henderson
Zachary Henderson 3 месяца назад
Eduardo Terroso
Eduardo Terroso 3 месяца назад
Hi, you always talk about making your videos more carbon neutral. Can you make a video about carbon offsetting? Is it reliable? What are the best options? Is it a good way to compensate for when I need to fly?
Zachary Prosser
Zachary Prosser 3 месяца назад
Btw the new Brazilian president is willing to open the Amazon up for logging. Great vid btw.
kitsurubami 3 месяца назад
god damn that mayor was full of himself. Why take pride when he literally said his motives were cheaper energy...? lol
Zachary Henderson
Zachary Henderson 3 месяца назад
He wasn't taking pride in himself, but rather being proud of the town he represents.
Marty 2516
Marty 2516 3 месяца назад
I love this channel so much! Keep up the great work bringing us the climate change stories we need to hear!
Thomas Crouse
Thomas Crouse 3 месяца назад
Dylan Painter
Dylan Painter 3 месяца назад
TLDR: It's cheaper
Christopher Willis
Christopher Willis 3 месяца назад
Good video but does make things blurry in the cost department when you consider ITC and PTC's, which isn't discussed in the video, but I love your clarity on the grid and the grid pool :D www.energy.gov/savings/renewable-electricity-production-tax-credit-ptc
IQ267 3 месяца назад
I love this mayor so much. He's the best of the Republican party
Aidan Thompson
Aidan Thompson 3 месяца назад
Great video, if only everyone in the world watched it
Badr Ahridou
Badr Ahridou 3 месяца назад
I love this
Mason Silvers
Mason Silvers 3 месяца назад
Go texas!
Denis Parfilko
Denis Parfilko 3 месяца назад
Lets go Hot Mess breaks the mold L E T S. G O S K R E W. L I B T A R D S
Marz 3 месяца назад
He sounds like Lil’ Gideon, only older :D
Mister X
Mister X 3 месяца назад
and less evil.
P L 3 месяца назад
Fantastic episode!!! 4 months ago I started paying a fee to switch all my power usage to renewable energy. I work at home and use a good deal of power, so it just makes me feel like I did something. It was SciShow that first convinced me.Keep up the great work!
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