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Climate Science and the Myths of Renewable Energy - FOS Steve Goreham

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Steve Goreham is a speaker, an author, a researcher on environmental issues, and an independent columnist. He’s the Executive Director of the Climate Science Coalition of America, a non-political association dedicated to informing about the realities of climate science and energy economics. Steve gave this presentation at the Friends of Science 'Climate Dogma Exposed' event in Calgary on May 9th 2017. He says "contrary to what your political leader, professor, and newspaper tell you, global warming is dominated by natural factors. As a result, thousands of climate and energy laws across hundreds of nations, all summed together, are not going to have a measureable effect on Earth’s temperatures."

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Ultra4
Ultra4 День назад
Oh America..... our children will be typing in this type of platform in Chinese instead of english, you can thank Trump and idiots like this. You went from top science reference to the laughing stock
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet День назад
Agreed. But watch for the anti-science faction of our government to dwindle significantly in the next elections. The idiot-in-chief will be the first to be shown the door. His Dunning-Kruger stupidity and arrogance have no place in the running of our country. As Tangier Island off of Virginia increasingly continues to vanish underwater, Trump reassures residents that their island will still be around hundreds of years from now because, he asserts, climate change is a hoax. And unfortunately, THEY BELIEVE HIM, blaming their engulfing sea level rise solely to erosion. They're following the braying leadership of an ass.
Joe McCaffery
Joe McCaffery 2 дня назад
If you rely on fat fuk’n idiots like Chris Christie for your facts you really should stay the fuk out of pretty much any discussion ever, the guy is an undoubted moron, he’s the a-typical stupid corrupt low level politician that lies about doing just enough for the voters to get by all whilst making a fortune from doing real favours to big business the rest of the time.
polka
polka 4 дня назад
Climate models are physics simulations. Simulations are the best way to predict the future. They are used for everything! Cars, rockets, nuclear processes, stars, sun, traffic, buildings, ...
morninboy
morninboy 4 дня назад
Who pays these morons to spew their dribble. Brainiac here is smarter than the collective scientific community and is capable of out computing the supercomputers. Cherry picking relevant factors and dismissing the obvious realities of physics is a good way to get on the talking circut but will do little to stave off our dire future
Andre Fransen
Andre Fransen 5 дней назад
I have been ridiculed for years for saying that man made climate change is bunkum. That said, cleaner air, rivers and consciousness for the need of particle pollution reduction is a small benefit from this hysteria.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 2 дня назад
There has always been climate change. Of course. You do know PhD-level climatologists are aware of that, right? The issue is the SPEED of warming. It has never warmed this quickly. Nature does not work this fast. THAT is what has gotten scientists' attention. The Exxon scientists do believe it but have kept their memos secret. Those memos weren't released to the public, they were secretly leaked. You sound as if you're unaware of the hundreds of millions of dollars ExxonMobil, Koch Industries and others have donated to climate change denial groups, (who make the videos like the one you watched) as uncovered in tax records by Drexel University, the Union of Concerned Scientists and Greenpeace. The ozone hole has shrunk because we banned CFLs. Remember? We call global warming "climate change" for really sound reasons. When you have the flu, you don't tell people you have a fever. You tell them you have the FLU. The flu encompasses fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. "Climate change" encompasses warming, increased rainfall, changes in air and oceanic circulation, ice-cap melting, sea level rise, and more. It's far more fitting that simply "global warming." +Andre Fransen
Andre Fransen
Andre Fransen 2 дня назад
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet , strange you should say that climatologists believe in climate change. So do I. THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLIMATE CHANGE. Also find it amusing that in one reply you state that Exxon scientists believe in it, and in the next they only expound propaganda. Another interesting thought......What happened to global warming and the ozone hole?
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 3 дня назад
Are you aware that every single "fact" presented in the video is disputed by actual scientists? Steve Goreham works for the Heartland Institute, a PR organization long bankrolled by ExxonMobil and Koch Industries, two of the biggest producers of C02 in the country. The tobacco industry paid Heartland for years to spread seeds of doubt about the link between smoking and lung cancer. They are paid to lie. The oil industry has spent over $1 billion to pull the wool over your eyes about climate change, with videos here and across the Internet; with blogs; with forums; with phony science sites; with an army of PR people who saturate conservative news with misleading science. Your comments clearly illustration the power of their indoctrination talents. 97% of CLIMATOLOGISTS working in the field and who have published in the field believe in climate change. THAT'S the consensus. No scientist outside of climatology is qualified to make a judgement. You don't go to a dermatologist for a heart problem, right? Or to an astronomer for a biology question? And the Exxon memos are widely known. Just Google them. +Andre Fransen
Andre Fransen
Andre Fransen 3 дня назад
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Have you watched the video on this subject. There are countless others that are similar with the same conclusions. Where is your proof of the Exxon scientists statements? There are also several RUvid’s that state that 0.05% of scientists believe in “man made” climate change. They obviously all work for Exxon!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 3 дня назад
That's my question. What part of man-made climate change is bunkum? Even Exxon scientists have admitted our role in warming in their private memos. And your evidence pointing otherwise is...what? +Andre Fransen
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
I did post - why is he referring to ipcc 2001 3rd report in 2017 when we have The Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) was finalized between 2013 and 2014. It provided the scientific input into the Paris Agreement.
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
I seem to have some posts missing.
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Just remember these people probably already got plans to build en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film) And leave us in the shit hole they made of our planet.
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Fake News, suck it up!
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Funded by exxon Mobil, what can you say? Post your accounts online?
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 4 дня назад
Donations by ExxonMobil, Koch Industries and others to the nearly 100 climate change denial organizations out there probably exceeds $1 billion, according to investigations by Drexel University, the Union of Concerned Scientists and Greenpeace. Phony science sites and conservative media have produced a population of science-ignorant automatons, mindlessly parroting conspiracy theories, unaware that they've been manipulated to do so. These people have been so deeply indoctrinated, they prefer to believe that it's thousands of independent scientists who are on the take while the oil industry sits innocently nearby. One lesson the oil industry has learned well: when the canary in the coal mine gasps, eat it.
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=183
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Needs to zoom in to changes over last 250 year en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bairoch.svg
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Again no reference to 1500 year temp graph until he adds thermometer record so I can check this but nothing else is checkable.
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Graph is meaningless due to scales, how does he account for NASA pictures of receding polar ice? It massive!
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
The Chicago temperature graph has no reference?
Andy Hodchild
Andy Hodchild 5 дней назад
Why does he refer to 3rd ipcc report from 2001 when talking in 2017? We have The Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) was finalized between 2013 and 2014. It provided the scientific input into the Paris Agreement.
Gabor Burcsa
Gabor Burcsa 5 дней назад
What if fossil fuels are not fossil?
Robert Hayes
Robert Hayes 6 дней назад
RED ALERT RED ALERT Science will not save us from Science. We need to save ourselves from GLOBAL WARMING. If the U.N. had a plan it would start something like this. 1. The world’s total population would have to accept to not bring children into this world for the next 20 years. ( there are plenty of children that need love and a home ) 2. People that would likre to end their lives should be legally and socially accepted.( euthanasia) (a persons dignified right)😀 3. All wars must stop today. ( people get to go home to live in there own places ) 4. The automobile industry must stop producing Fossil Fuel Powered social vehicles ending 2017. ( people get to still have a job in the motor industry building alternative vehicles ) 5. All countries that can ,will need to produce their own products (reducing ocean travel fuel burn)( sustain a work force) 6. All global business will need to move investment to full blown Renewable energy supply. ( they and their investors still make money ) 7. All countries will need to grow billions of tons of Indian Hemp. The hemp will provide for a huge carbon store by making everything you can from it. Replacing all petrochemical products. (diversity will create contentment and PEACE and UNDERSTANDING. ) 8. Socially all drug addicts will be supplied with there drug of choice at a place of convenience. At a cost that will cover the cost. ( social rest,the end of the black market and the decline in overall drug use and deaths.) 9. The amounts of Fossil Fuels (burnt) in the countries that will still need them will be calculated so as to keep the atmosphere stable as the gasses are reduced. ( the second and third world people will still have their first world comforts and thus we all become one world people accepting all cultures.) Sounds great hey. 10. Understanding that there is a lot more to UNDERSTAND and DO to save LIFE. The Scientific COMMUNITY have a colossal job in helping to do this. We need all of us to DO this, ALL OF US. And the list goes on. (Patience and faith in one another) Imagine the UN achieving that, when they can’t even stop the ethnic cleansing that happens daily.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 6 дней назад
GLACIER GIRL EXPLANATION: Steve Goreham neglected to share with his viewers that glaciers melt not only from the top, but FROM THE BOTTOM, due to the immense pressure. It's called pressure liquefaction. As the bottom of the glacier melts, the top layer moves steadily down, taking the airplane down with it. Subsequent winter snows bury the plane as it descends. But there's more. Researchers at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland have discovered "an aquifer the size of Ireland" under the Greenland ice, with water reaching 160 feet deep. The pocket of water doesn't freeze but flows out through systems of vertical pipelines, crevasses and moulins, further bringing down the top layer of any ice above it. "You get this aquifer in areas where there is a lot of melting and a lot of snowfall," says Jason Box, of the Geological Survey in a published report of the new finding. It's important to know ALL the facts before blindly accepting oil industry propaganda in this very deceptive video. Greenland ice is melting at an unprecedented pace in the historical record and is contributing to sea level rise.
Johan Fouche
Johan Fouche 6 дней назад
Must be the imaginary hole in the ozone layer.....Wonder who's company they pushed forward & who's they sunk with THAT CFC agenda, which gave rise to what we are experiencing today. They saw the world change their deodorant based on a lie they told & used the same naivety to push all the earth friendly BS we've been fed today. Now what pisses me off, apart from the fact that I now have to pay $4 for a light bulb, is that I knew this was absolute BS, when I was but 19 years old, with basically NO knowledge, no instruments, using my mere perception of the temperature.. If I could do this & call the BS, why couldn't my fellow man ???? why did YOU!!!!! mess this all up world wide by being chicken little ?????
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet День назад
"I need not information." Says it all. And you illustrated your breadth of retardation with every post. +Johan Fouche
Johan Fouche
Johan Fouche 2 дня назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet RUN CHICKEN LITTLE!!! RUN!!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!.....Just run past this point where we tax you for breathing & I'm the uninformed ? maybe you just believe incorrect information, i do not. I need not information. You need the ability to tell bullshit from facts.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 2 дня назад
+Johan Fouche So beyond uninformed, I'm not bothering to respond. The arrogance of ignorance, squared.
Johan Fouche
Johan Fouche 6 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet actually einstein was an idiot. He has paradoxical issues re. time & space. BNow I wouldn't call it more brilliant, but lets face it, those fuckers are like priests all believing in a certain book. They own the religious entities world wide & they also state the book is true. Why would you say they do THAT ? I wonder how many roman catholic bishops there are, etc,etc....Prob 10000 bishops in 500 religious organizations on this planet all have reached consensus. Moses DID!!! lead his people out of egypt. God DID!!!! push over jericho's walls. Its simple enough to notice the weather & notice how it does not change. its simple enough to understand the planet's properties regarding carbon, how we harvest it, & what its impact on plant life is. Simple enough to look @ a thermostat or another part of the planet's readings, to realize there is no apparent change. Simple enough to see the sea levels not rising. Simple enough to look @ the dryas period's warming, the last ice age's end & how the planet follows an observable pattern regarding temperatures. YOU!!!! on the other hand, think because a book is labeled as something by someone, there is no hidden agenda or just basic human need to conform to certain aspects regardless of legitimacy, or completeness of their findings. Shame the fuckers don't want to be shunned by the scientific community. Maybe do some research re. newspaper clippings from as much as 130 years ago. You will see they started falsely predicting the BS 140 years ago.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 6 дней назад
You have "BASICALLY NO KNOWLEDGE" yet you're more brilliant than all the PhDs in climate research. More brilliant than the 2000 members of the IPCC; the over 80 academies of science; the over 200 scientific organizations worldwide; nearly every government on earth; ALL of the world climate centers, who pooled their data to reach their consensus; and NASA, who has launched hundreds of satellites and space probes and successfully landed men on the moon. Someone as brilliant as you, Johan, should have your own TV show. You're clearly right up there with Einstein.
Reg Thribb
Reg Thribb 7 дней назад
So the climate deniers seem to be saying that either the scientists have made mistakes, OR its a conspiracy to deceive. The deniers cant decide which because there is no evidence for either. Are the deniers expecting us to believe that every single scientific agency in the world have been hoodwinked ? The Pentagon are extremely concerned about the security implications. Are they ''in on it'' as well ? Is it a coincidence that when greenhouse gasses were released in the past , the planet warmed ? As it is again, but this time over 2 hundred years not 20 thousand. OR Are lies and misinformation spread by fossil fuel companies ? Like big tobacco firms did over lung cancer. Exxons OWN scientists warned about warming 40YEARS ago, and it was quickly hushed up. - www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ Read about the merchants of doubt here -www.desmogblog.com/heartland-institute-exposed-internal-documents-unmask-heart-climate-denial-machine
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 6 дней назад
How dare you use facts to manipulate the people here? Surely you can manufacture some rationalization to show how thousands of independent scientists and hundreds of scientific institutions are all in cahoots with one another to rip us all off and/or take over the world with their globalist visions of power and grandeur? Red meat from sacred conspiracy cows is what sells here, Reg. Please dish out some nonsense to provide balance. :)
andrew tones
andrew tones 7 дней назад
climate extremes, not its cold here today etc etc duhhh
Dana Lissy
Dana Lissy 8 дней назад
I guess these are the same people who said that there would not be an economic crash in 2008...
BC Senior for Panama
BC Senior for Panama 8 дней назад
I didn't watch this whole show yet but I believe climate friendly energy is compatible with our lifestyle, but probably not with the population that we have today. We have allowed our global population to grow to unmanageable proportions. The western countries have learned to control our populations but we have allowed our socialist governments to give us too many goodies. This in turn means that our "goodies" can only be maintained with high taxation and sufficient population for those taxes to be meaningful. We NEED to link aid to developing countries with population growth. The answer is not to import their excess populations into our countries and thereby destroy our cultures and provide these newcomers with the same lifestyle while they continue to breed. We HAVE to limit global population growth until we get to a level which is sustainable and we can enjoy all the benefits of our energy sources.
DIY Self Sufficiency
DIY Self Sufficiency 10 дней назад
Build as many coal powered plants as you want. Won't run when you use up all the coal. The sun and wind will still be there.
Liliane Dubois
Liliane Dubois 10 дней назад
Mr. Steve Goreman of the Hartland Institute, I presume?
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 9 дней назад
Rejoining sounds like a great idea. With science attacked from all sides now, they need all the help they can get. +Liliane Dubois
Liliane Dubois
Liliane Dubois 9 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Well, yes, sigh..........don't we wish they would spend that money recapturing and cleaning their emissions instead? They would not need any of that. That reminds me, I used to belong to the Union of Concerned Scientists, better join again. Thanks for the reminder.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 9 дней назад
You are correct. They are part of the over $1 billion ExxonMobil, Koch Industries and others have spent on sowing seeds of doubt about climate change, according to investigations by Drexel University, the Union of Concerned Scientists and Greenpeace. Their misleading videos, blogs, paid PR "scientists" and phony websites pepper the Internet.
Jon Phipps
Jon Phipps 10 дней назад
Yet another non scientist talking like a scientist. Using micro exmples to desceibe macro phenomenon. Using incorrect graphs and misquoting people. But lets be honest, the people watching this are not the calibre that would spend any time fact checking anything. Bc in your minds you already know that you're right and since he agrees with you the matter is settled. Lol Finally at the end of the spiel we get to the real point. Conventional carbon power plants are the what we should be building. If you can bare the agony you might just piggy back off this fact checker.. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/20/heartland-institute-scientists
Neil 1
Neil 1 11 дней назад
This is great! I love this. It makes all of the valid points, and it touches on all of the reasons to be skeptical of the AGW religion. But it's kind of boring. I love FOS, but you need to polish this a lot. You need to get good looking young people, clever producers, flashy special effects to present this information to get through to more people. No one wants to watch this kind of boring stuff, honest and reasonable as it is. Get some snowboarders, or video gamers, or something to present this information if you want to reach an audience that matters.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 9 дней назад
+Neil 1 Do you have any idea how many times I've heard this very argument, which you are parroting from one of the questionable sites I previously mentioned? This myth has been around for years and repeated many times. I will wait while you cite the peer-reviewed data in credible scientific sources that support your argument.
Neil 1
Neil 1 9 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Ha! You're a complete idiot. Greenhouse gases do not trap heat. Do you even know what the process is? Honestly, this is the fundamental process for which all is based upon and you don't even know the slightest thing about it? I'm betting you think greenhouse gases absorb all wavelengths of IR radiation. Right? WRONG! CO2, for example, only absorbs 3 bands of IR. Those are 2.7, 4.3, and 15 micrometers. The IR spectrum starts at 700 nanometers and goes all the way to 1 millimeter, so that is such a small amount of what you refer to as heat that it's laughable. But wait, it gets better. When the small amount of IR is absorbed by a CO2 molecule, it is re-emitted, almost instantaneously. A few femtoseconds, which is a very small fraction of a second. Yes some is radiated back toward the ground and it does cause a small amount of warming, but it does not trap heat, nor can it cause the kind of warming that we are constantly threatened with by you and your ilk. It is simply physically impossible for CO2 to do what your precious peer-reviewed scientists claim that it will. Also, once the three aforementioned wavelengths are completely redistributed by absorption, and re-emission, adding more CO2 will have no further effect, or otherwise known as absorption saturation. So fuck off.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 9 дней назад
+Neil 1 That you defend Heartland and the Friends of Science tells me all I need to know. You haven't done your research. As a science writer for 45 years, I can spot you a mile away. C02 and methane trap heat and anything you spout otherwise must have peer-reviewed data published in a respected science journal to support your argument. If your information comes from a blog or a propaganda site on the Internet, it doesn't count. Cite your published sources and I'll take you seriously. I'm funded by NOBODY. And I hate to burst your bubble about ad hominem attacks, but that's my shorthand "heads-up" to the people on this forum who haven't a clue about the depth of deception that goes on. Throughout this forum, I've refuted virtually every "fact" the video presented. If you haven't seen my posts, I'll present them again. And then you can tell me if my ad hominem attacks are warranted. Are you aware of the nearly 100 climate change denial sites that pepper the Internet? Do you know how they're funded? Do you have any idea how they misrepresent science? If you did, you wouldn't have been in such a lather about ad hominem attacks. Heartland, by the way, is the same PR firm the tobacco industry hired to sow seeds of doubt about the link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. They were literally paid to lie. For years. They're now paid to lie about climate change. Better do a little more research, Neil.
Neil 1
Neil 1 10 дней назад
@SwiftlyTiltingPlanet How about you? Are you a climate scientist, or just a propagandist? Do you know anything? I have done my own research on the subject starting around 20 years ago, and what I have found suggests that the people you believe are all full of shit, and are liars. Who are you funded by? If their positions are so strong why do they need you to do attack dog work? If your'e trying to convince people of your side you're going to have to do better than ad hominem attacks, and appeals to authority. Both are logical fallacies. Do some of your own research. Start with the IR absorption spectra of CO2, and limitations of absorption, and go from there.
Casius CBU
Casius CBU 11 дней назад
overthink problem detected
Tommy Mitchell
Tommy Mitchell 11 дней назад
Anyone notice that ten years ago it was "Global Warming" all over everything, data since then proves warming is minimal and now "Climate Change" is the word. For congress to get control of carbon they had to sell it as immediate danger to humans. They got control to regulate carbon in industry on that exact premise, and now just need "Change" to keep going. Plastic and other pollution is most likely more of a health threat than "Climate Change".
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 11 дней назад
When we have the flu, we don't tell people we have a fever. We tell them we have the flu. The flu communicates many more symptoms than "fever." Which is exactly why they changed global warming to "climate change." There wasn't anything nefarious about it. It was simply an inadequate term. In addition to warming, climate change encompasses melting ice caps, rising sea levels, increased moisture held aloft (every degree rise results in a 7% increase in the atmosphere's ability to hold moisture), epic rainstorms, increasing severity of drought, changing air and oceanic circulation patterns and so on. I completely agree that plastic pollution is also nasty. So are sulfate aerosols from burning coal. But they don't negate damage from rising C02. We humans are so talented we can screw up the planet in many ways simultaneously. :)
Jan Lauwers
Jan Lauwers 12 дней назад
I agree on who is causing the global warming is not clear. I DO NOT AGREE ON : WE SHOULD DO NOTHING AND KEEP ON GOING WHAT WE ARE DOING. If I see what pollution, smog and other stuff we are creating and producing ... hard to say we are doing well. Hard to believe we should produce more CO2, which is only some small part in our ‘pollution system’. Everybody feels that this is wrong. What I’m trying to say is : LOOK AROUND, our lifestyle is only good for the few opportunistic people (10%?) who lives on this planet. Don’t fall asleep here. Do not fall back in your unconsciousness. Everybody knows this is just an interpretation of figures to get you back to sleep. I’m not saying the other ones are wright, I’m just saying that this movement has it’s own agenda too. Keep your eyes open, we are not doing well.
gcxred4kat9
gcxred4kat9 12 дней назад
It's just another scheme the elites dreamed up to redistribute the world's wealth.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 11 дней назад
How so? How do thousands of scientists working independently make up data out of whole cloth and then all get together to conspire with the government to screw us all? Does that sound reasonably plausible to you? If it does, I suggest you avoid InfoWars and Sean Hannity for awhile.
Mikey Ikey
Mikey Ikey 12 дней назад
ig oil p ropaganda.team Trump bullshit. Fuckin Americans again and their bullshit.No wonder their is so much drug addiction there . Life is shit that's why, tying to feed their military machine. for what?
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 11 дней назад
Half of the American public is hopelessly ignorant and functionally illiterate. It's fed a steady diet of propaganda from questionable news outlets whose agenda is not to enlighten but to push an agenda. They have successfully brainwashed a large portion of the population. Meanwhile, too many politicians have been corrupted by money donations from large industry and special interest groups. These politicians no longer represent the best interests of individual Americans. Our military budget is insane---it's bigger than the next seven countries combined. Many of us living here see it exactly as you do, Mikey, but are helpless to do anything about it. We elected a corrupt, narcissist moron as president. I don't blame the world for looking down on us. We deserve their scorn.
William Nichols
William Nichols 12 дней назад
Who funds these fools? The comments below show how effective the right wing propaganda machine is.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 11 дней назад
You're absolutely right. We need more enlightened people on this forum like you, William. We are outnumbered. :(
Michael Pinto
Michael Pinto 12 дней назад
How arrogant are human beings to think they can actually affect global warming??? Get your heads out of your anus and get a job and be productive and contribute to society. Stop with all the rhetoric & nonsense! This is nothing but a UN Globalist agenda..to separate you from your $$$.
Michael Pinto
Michael Pinto 6 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet - like I said, keep safe in your bat cave!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 6 дней назад
+Michael Pinto 97% of climatologists who have published agree with the consensus. Let's get that straight first. 97% of climatologists, the 2000 members of the IPCC, the over 80 academies of science worldwide, the over 200 scientific institutions worldwide, virtually every nation state on the planet except our crony capitalist government; NASA, who has successfully launched hundreds of satellites and space probes and have put men on the moon; ALL of the world's climate monitoring centers, who pooled their data and reached consensus, yes, they'll ALL wrong and corrupt and your oil industry propaganda, as you viewed in the video and imperceptibly swallowed whole without questioning it, THEY'RE RIGHT AND HAVE NO AGENDA WHATSOEVER. And you tell ME to go back to my bat cave? Hanging upside down in a cave actually might do you some good, Michael; get that blood flowing back into your brain, brother. You've been royally duped. :)
Michael Pinto
Michael Pinto 6 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet- Hahaha! Oh yeah "the science of 97% of Scientists agree"....hahaha! go back to your bat cave until the offending carbon is neutralized by higher taxes, unemployment & Venezuela-like status! Cheers!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
Conspiracy nonsense. Learn the science.
Equilibrium Horse Center
Equilibrium Horse Center 12 дней назад
Look at this argument. www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/20/heartland-institute-scientists?CMP=share_btn_link
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
The Heartland Institute, who presented this video, is one of nearly 100 climate change denial organizations who have received over $500 million in donations from Koch Industries, ExxonMobil and others in the fossil fuel business, according to Drexel University, the Union of Concerned Scientists and Greenpeace investigations. Their propaganda videos, blogs, and forums pepper the Internet and are notorious for misrepresenting the current scientific data.
Bob Pedley
Bob Pedley 12 дней назад
The book "1421The year China discovered the World" is an interesting read. How Chinese fleets sailed round the world, One fleet circumnavigating Greenland, returning to China via North of Russia.
Stefan
Stefan 12 дней назад
Reversing the greenhouse effect costs a lot of money. Why would anyone make this up and blowing trillions? Only morons follow ideas from such suits.
Mark Fox
Mark Fox 12 дней назад
At last. A man with knowledge and a true sense of history and the sheer scale of this world and our tiny tiny place in the world. Thank you for a voice of sanity.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
Sorry, Mark, you were just bamboozled by the Climate Science Coalition of America and the Heartland Institute, long bankrolled by ExxonMobil, Koch Industries and others in the oil industry. Virtually every fact in the video is disputed by actual climate scientists. A few rebuttals: C02 is only good for plants in a green house. Why? Because it depletes plants of their natural defenses against insect attacks. It also diminishes their zinc, iron and protein, making them far less nutritious for human consumption. Contrary to what the oil industry wants you to believe, C02 is a pollutant. Any substance that damages the environment is a pollutant. Rising C02 is trapping heat, allowing the atmosphere to hold 7% more moisture for every degree of temperature rise. Thus, epic rainstorms are increasing worldwide, washing away topsoils and fertilizer and decimating crops. Floods from epic hurricanes are causing more financial losses, after adjusting for inflation, than any hurricane previous to the year 2000. The rising heat is melting Greenland and Antarctic Ice at an unprecedented pace. Enough ice has melted over Greenland since the 1990s to drown Australia in knee-deep water. Annual sea level rise is now 3.2 mm per year, according to the latest data from NASA and European satellite altimeters and tide gauges measured by the University of South Florida and Old Dominion University. And this rate is accelerating, forcing Miami to raise many of its streets two feet and endangering islands throughout the South Pacific. Coastal property values up and down the coast of the U.S. have already dropped 7%, solely due to sea level rise and the projected future rise. Subsistence farmers in Bangladesh have been forced to leave their previously arable land after it was inundated by surging seawater, poisoning not only the soil but their freshwater drinking resources. The Medieval Warming Period was a localized event, not a worldwide one. The video ignored the actual data on this subject and presented only outdated speculation. Many parts of the world actually cooled during this time. The Little Ice Age had little to do with the sun's lower solar output and more to do with multiple volcanic eruptions that preceded it, blocking solar output with sulfate aerosols and triggering mass expansion of sun-reflecting ice sheets. Contrary to what the video presents, the Thames River only froze over once every ten years and had, in fact, frozen before and after the Maunder Minimum. The video ignored the latest data on this climate event as well. We are ten thousand years beyond the last Milankovich Cycle peak, when the earth's orbit brought it slightly closer to the sun and caused warming. We are now in a the phase of orbit when we should be COOLING, not warming. Yet we are warming. Volcanoes spew C02 into the atmosphere but its less than half as much as human activity does. By measuring the ratio of carbon 12, 13 and 14, we know precisely where the excess C02 in the atmosphere is coming from; not natural sources, but from the burning of fossil fuels. C02 molecules can stay in the atmosphere for a hundred years or more, which is why it is accumulating and trapping increasing heat. It is being augmented by methane, which also traps heat. It's NOT the sun causing our problem. The sun is in its lowest activity phase in 40 years and according to NASA temperature readings, our outer atmosphere has actually COOLED since 1978. Yet our inner atmosphere continues to WARM. The poles are also warming at twice the rate as the equator, exactly opposite of what happens with direct solar heating. We are warming due to C02. The video won't tell you that because the Climate Science Coalition represents the biggest producers of C02 in the country.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
You just watched oil industry propaganda, brought to you by the Heartland Institute, the same PR firm the tobacco industry paid to lie about the connection between smoking and lung cancer. Go to SkepticalScience to see just how cleverly Steve Goreham duped you.
Arnold Boutilier
Arnold Boutilier 13 дней назад
If all the money that is going to climate change from all the nations was going to help the people in the world we would have a much better outlook less sickness less homeless more peaceful world
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
30 million poor people living in low-lying Bangladesh will be displaced within 30 years as sea level continues to rise. Mitigating sea level rise and inundation of arable farmland will help the poor. The same in the Mekong Delta in Vietnam. Subsistence farmers around the world are being hurt more by climate change than any other group.
Arnold Boutilier
Arnold Boutilier 13 дней назад
Anyone who is in doubt about the truth about climate change or global warming or what ever their calling it now should have a good look at this video please
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
The video was presented by the Heartland Institute, who is bankrolled by the oil industry. They completely pulled the wool over your eyes. Go to SkepticalScience and see how cleverly Steve Goreham misrepresented science.
Arnold Boutilier
Arnold Boutilier 13 дней назад
The only one who controls the world and climate is not Al Gore or any Government any one who believes that is telling me that they think God doesn’t have control he is the one who controls the world and your being believe
Dreadog
Dreadog 13 дней назад
It now January 2019, we just had the coldest winter in the northern states EVER. It was colder than the north pole and guess what, Fake news CNN said that this was more proof of global warming. How gullible and fucked up are we.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
Simultaneously, Australia had a record heat wave. Try to understand the science rather than spout off about "fake news." You're aware that the video you watched was presented by the Heartland Institute, funded by the oil industry, right? Actual climate scientists dispute virtually every fact they presented.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
The sun is responsible? According to NASA monitoring since 1978, Earth's outer atmosphere has actually COOLED. Simultaneously, our inner atmosphere has WARMED. In fact, the sun's activity is the lowest it has been in nearly 40 years, and we should be cooling. But we're not. Steve Goreham didn't want to share that. Balance of information is important. :)
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
C02 makes plants grow but simultaneously depletes their natural defenses against insect attacks. It also reduces their iron, zinc and protein, making them less nutritious. Increasing heavy rains are washing away topsoils and fertilizer and, along with the growing severity of droughts, decimating crops worldwide. A few facts Steve Goreham forgot to add. Balance of knowledge is important. :)
tj moon
tj moon 13 дней назад
The most common sense analysis I have seen so far regarding the issue of climate change. I recommend this to everyone.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
The video you watched was presented by the Heartland Institute, which is bankrolled by ExxonMobil and Koch Industries, two of the biggest producers of C02 in the country. Heartland was the same PR firm the tobacco industry hired to plant seeds of doubt about the link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. Now they're being paid to pull the wool over your eyes about climate. They are paid to misrepresent facts and lie by omission, as they have here. Climatologists refute virtually every fact in the video. Visit SkepticalScience and see how cleverly Steve Goreham duped you.
Adrian Mcdonald
Adrian Mcdonald 14 дней назад
Scotland welcomes global warming! The news said yesterday that last year was warmest since Records BEGAN!... 150 years ago. Not 150 million years ago or even 150 thousand years ago. Not even 1500 years ago. They would just as well say, since Records BEGAN.... THIS MORNING!
karl theodor
karl theodor 14 дней назад
For many years the sledgehammer hammered us into the idea that climate change is man-made.This is done by selected "climate researchers" who receive research funding from the German government in exchange for delivering the government's desired results - which is man-made climate change! the fairy tale tells that the alleged global warming can be stopped or prevented by humans! If this is possible then why not make the weather the way we would like it? Quite simply - because it is impossible! Meteorologists can not predict the weather for even 3 weeks with certainty, but how can that be more possible with the climate? These climate forecasts are all based on climate simulations on the computer. The computer is fed with data that can be changed or manipulated as desired, so that any desired result can be delivered! CO2 is also not a climate pen as always claimed
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
Oil industry propaganda. Learn the science and you'll think differently.
Planet isCooling
Planet isCooling 14 дней назад
Fix you fking models, then look me up.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
Nobody needs models to prove man-made climate change. We've warmed steadily for the past 100-plus years while C02 continues to rise, and the fastest warming has come in the last 30 years. Sea level is rising over 3mm per year and accelerating according to tide gauges and satellite altimeter measurements around the globe. The sun is in its coolest phase it has been in 40 years, yet we're continuing to warm. That should make everybody take a breath and think a minute. Earth's OUTER atmosphere has actually COOLED during the sun's cool phase, according to satellite temperature monitoring, yet our inner atmosphere continues to WARM. How is that possible, if the heat is coming directly from the sun? The poles are also warming at twice the rate of the equator, exactly the opposite of what happens with direct solar heat.
Planet isCooling
Planet isCooling 14 дней назад
If you survey 100 bakers and ask them if they want to receive a grant and continue baking tbread, I expect 97% would answer yes
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
Scientists aren't given grants to prove climate change. They're given grants to gather data, period. End of story.
Planet isCooling
Planet isCooling 14 дней назад
Sorry but 20 yeas and 500 billion dollars has produced zero fact based science. Rising CO2 does not increase temps. It reduces them.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
And your source for that fact is?
Rusty Icepick
Rusty Icepick 14 дней назад
First you should know that the Friends of Science organization is not. "...they propose that “the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver of climate change,” not human activity. They argued against the Kyoto Protocol. They are considered by many to promote climate change denial. They are largely funded by the fossil fuel industry. Overall, they are not Friends of Science. You can see for yourself at mediabiasfactcheck.com/friends-of-science/ Remember, it is not THAT climate change is happening. As the deniers like to point out this has been happening for billions of years. It's the RATE at which change is happening now that sets the period of human existence apart from the times prior to the emergence of humans on the planet. And then it wasn't until we started burning fossil fuels that the rapid changes started taking place.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
Wow, a refreshing moment of real science. Thankyou, Rusty. :)
tamil kings
tamil kings 14 дней назад
The truth man made stupidity... American can't understand because over full brains They have.. Do you know Alaska I Saw Juneau.. 15 years you can see street. Juneau Library ..up hill summer Times top snow ..no tree.mountain.. after.. 2017..I saw climates very hot. And also I Look mountain.. Top Growth. Lots. Tree. Hole mountain. Grow Grass...thetemperature.. Very.. High.. Humidity Fukedup...I got Breathing.problems. 100% Alaska water Weeper..make more Hot...I been 2004 street No shops ..2017 15 icream. Bar ..in Streets... Imagine Your self..two grand Ma speak I feel very Hot ..I just walk and Heard... After my Chef said me we Shared.. Message.... Before I enter Alaska One couple speak they Came cruise tour because..California.. No water...just I put My mind..then.top message.. That mean Time I called my home They said very cold.. I put my mind.... Then South Africa.. No water I put my mind..Italy middle.. Earthquake I put my mind ..Portugal Fire.. 34 people dead... I put my mind..then Kerala waters problem.. And my home town.. No..rain I put my mind... That time I can not sleep well.. I sign off... My mother also seek.. I went my home town Well was I saw dead fish bone... Only...44 years never dry my Well.... My sugar can also dead.....
Mark Ramkhelawan
Mark Ramkhelawan 14 дней назад
All a product of white guilt! Your wallet and free labor will fix the climate ! All hail mother earth.
dMb
dMb 15 дней назад
At 36:00, the issue of net energy production is inadequately explained. Solar panels installed in Germany will produce a less than half the energy as solar panels installed in the US southwest. If those numbers are for installations in Germany, then we can conclude that those same panels would be easily net positive in the US southwest. There's also the issue of solar panel efficiency which is still increasing. Currently there are panels on the market that are over 20% efficient. That's 50% more efficient than many panels from just a decades or two ago. Higher efficiency panels mean they produce more power over their life, and thus are more likely to recoup their energy investment. Another issue is that it's easy to estimate the energy that goes into manufacturing solar panels--just look at cost. Cost to build is a combination of scarcity of materials and the energy needed to put them together. As cost comes down (and cost IS going down quickly), that literally means less energy is needed to manufacture the solar panels, meaning the net energy balance is shifting more to the positive side.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
Don't confuse these people with facts. You'll be an outcast. :)
dMb
dMb 15 дней назад
If climate alarmists actually cared about the climate, they would advocate for building giant greenhouses around power plants and routing the power plant's exhaust through those greenhouses. Inside the greenhouses would be various algae, fast-growing woody weeds, etc. Since the atmosphere in those greenhouses would be high in CO2, high in water vapor, and low in oxygen, the plants in there will grow at accelerated rates. When the power plant's exhaust exits the greenhouses, it will have less CO2. The plant growth in the greenhouses would also supplement the fuel supply for the power plant, essentially turning it into a partial solar plant. The greenhouses would take up a lot of space around the power plant. That is a benefit because it limits housing & other businesses building too close to the plant. It's a buffer zone that improves safety and people's health. The space in these greenhouses would be rented out to universities, research teams, etc., because they offer an ideal environment for high-CO2 experiments. People could develop or breed algae that grows faster & soaks up more CO2. CO2-absorption devices could be tested inside the greenhouses. The rent charged would easily pay for building the greenhouses, and the supplemental fuel for the power plant reduces its expenses thus making its electricity cheaper. Such a plan is good for power plants, good for research, good for the air, good for people, and it saves people money. But it doesn't concentrate power in the hands of the elite. It doesn't lead to wealth redistribution. And that's why climate alarmists won't support it.
Jan Hansen
Jan Hansen 15 дней назад
1 small mistake, plants take in co2 but they do not store it and do not release it again when they die, they convert co2 to c and o atoms by means of photosynthesis because they need c to grow and we need o / oxygen to live, the co2 you can measure is the co2 that comes up through the underground from the magma, if you lower co2 to 150 ppm plants stop taking in and convert co2 and after about 4 weeks all animals and people are choked all organic material that is people, animals and plants when they die and break down to new nutrients to new plants and the c atom becomes ch4/methane, which ther is about 2 ppm methane in the atsmophore because it quickly dissolves there must be strong suicidal thoughts or genes in those who say that it is man-made co2 that increases the temperature since they want us all to commit suicide by removing co2
Rotten Rod
Rotten Rod 15 дней назад
Flat earthers insisting the world is flat doesn't make it so, and climate warming proponents insisting we are facing impending doom and gloom won't make it happen. Not that any of us will be around in a few hundred years to throw in their faces that all the ridiculous claims being made today proved to be preposterous nonsense.
Trish Dumbrell
Trish Dumbrell 15 дней назад
And Australia thinks that our 1% and a huge cost is going to do anything????? Madness. But all around they are building coal plants.... so our coal will not be needed and so what happens then... our country becomes void of earning money or fueling industries etc....I hope God helps us cause our leaders aren't???? its all.... the henny penny panick... "the sky is falling - the sky is falling??
Trish Dumbrell
Trish Dumbrell 15 дней назад
I feel solar panels produce heat all around the area they are put on.... Farmers living next to the solar farms have complained that the heat swept off the solar panels heats up their crops and kills them...
Marcia Diehl
Marcia Diehl 9 дней назад
And Windmill Turbines are slaughtering hundreds and hundreds of birds.
John Smith
John Smith 15 дней назад
What about emissions from cars?
RyanAlaska
RyanAlaska 16 дней назад
yes, we are a long ways away from 1922 when American Meteorological society monthly weather review report said "within a few years it's predicted that due to the ice melting the sea level will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable...that was reported in Nov 1922. Its the same scare tactics as before, thank you President Trump, we don't want to pay for this nonsense anymore. I really like the "flea wags the dog" comment. so true
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 15 дней назад
Why do you think Miami raised so many of its streets 2 feet? And where did those five Solomon islands go? Oh yeah, right, they're underwater now.
Pipistrelle07
Pipistrelle07 16 дней назад
When anything cost more than the money you pour into it, it is a bad business decision. Would you exchange all your dollars for two dimes? That is basically what Global Warming advocates demand of us. It is all about wasting money through wealth distribution. Commonsense left the building long ago and one misguided "cause" after another is embraced to no productive end. One would think that after all these thousands of years, if you believe in the positive effects of evolution, that we would have evolved out of our stupidity which demands we embrace losing causes and ride them for all they are worth.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 15 дней назад
Yes, what stupidity we displayed by regulating aerosol pollution back in the 70s, so millions wouldn't have to die prematurely from lung disease. And what a waste that acid rain legislation was, cleaning up the air so trees wouldn't die prematurely and fish had clean water to swim in. And that ozone hole. What a boondoggle! More damned legislation and money and now 2 million people won't suffer from skin cancer and die.
tom Dobyns
tom Dobyns 16 дней назад
This is all based on cherry picking data to prove a point tht is too important to not cherry pick.
David Schwartz
David Schwartz 17 дней назад
If only the climate models had realistic data entered for their foundation instead of the manipulated data they actually have.
Crypto Volta
Crypto Volta 17 дней назад
To make matters even more astounding, apparently you don't have to take CO2 into the equation AT ALL. Joseph Postma, masters of astrophysics from UC, has shown that the ENTIRE basis for back-radiative "heating" of the atmosphere by CO2 or any other "greenhouse gas" is based on a completely erroneous understanding of basic thermodynamics and terribly sloppy and nonsensical assumptions being built into the basic premise of the calculations!: ruvid.net/video/видео-G5bwaf9QXro.html. I have yet to find anyone addressing this and it is completely consistent with what is written in textbooks on thermodynamics from what I have tried to independently verify. Basically, all this time, everyone has been quibbling about the degree of the effect of CO2 when, in reality, it has no distinguishable effect at all outside of the statistical noise of a chaotic system. If there are any accomplished thermodynamicists that could find any fault with this, I would be eager to know as I found it very convincing.
David Keller
David Keller 17 дней назад
I am a non-climate scientist. This video presents very persuasive data and arguments.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 15 дней назад
The video was paid for by the oil industry, and climatologists refute virtually every single "fact" it presents. Always get a rebuttal from actual scientists, not oil industry shills, before making a decision.
Michael B B
Michael B B 17 дней назад
Instill fear in the public and they'll do or buy what ever your saying. I've got to get my Ocean Front property in Colorado listed soon.
xXUr MommaXx
xXUr MommaXx 17 дней назад
Obviously they want to get rid of all the plants and trees and green grasses here in America and around the Earth with this Global warming scam. Turn all countries into deserts and control the minds of the citizens through our medias.
Joachim Friedrich
Joachim Friedrich 17 дней назад
Believers in human caused climate change are ignorant and dumb as rocks. Those pushing for human caused climate change are swindlers, brilliant snake oil salesmen and political criminals of the worst kind.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 15 дней назад
And you are aware that you were just bamboozled by a propaganda video presented by the Heartland Institute, which is funded by Koch Industries and ExxonMobil, the two companies that produce more C02 in this country than any other? Heartland is the same PR organization the tobacco industry hired to spread lies about the connection between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. Now they're doing the same with climate change. Actual climate scientists refute virtually every "fact" the video presents. Go to SKepticalScience and see what the actual science says.
Flowing Hands
Flowing Hands 17 дней назад
Countries like China and the USA pump more pollution into the atmosphere than anyone else. Sure there is natural climate change and ice cores show the natural fluctuations. But now we see evidence that our activities is greatly influencing activity on our earth within these cores. Of course like all science there is differing opinions and many 'suit' those that are the worst polluters like the USA and China. For them they see no evidence of climate change; it would not do their industries a good turn. Evidence can prove that the earth is flat if need be. Evidence can be manipulated to suit the opinion, whether it is true or not.
wally poly
wally poly 17 дней назад
I agree that we should keep our forest as green as possible, but other than that I think the Democrats are just a radical organization that's like cancer and never rest. It's continually finding issues in every thing, every where. The common issues just aren't enough, they've got to go in search of or compose issues to keep the party relevant. They and their disciples need to go the way of the Ice Age.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 11 дней назад
+wally poly The U.S. DOES recognize rising sea levels. That growing awareness is precisely the reason why coastal property values from Maine to Florida have recently dropped 7% compared to comparable inland properties, according to new studies released last year. Climate change doesn't discriminate, of course. But most Americans are NOT subsistence farmers, as so many millions of poverty-stricken people are around the world. They rely on the food they grow to keep them alive. So when the climate dumps an epic rainstorm and washes away their topsoils and fertilizer or a severe drought triggers desertification or sea level rise washes over their land during a storm surge and turns it toxic from salt poisoning and destroys their clean water source, these people must move away. They are DEVASTATED in ways we wealthy Americans cannot begin to fathom. But that isn't to ignore our own damage here at home. The shrimp fishery off Maine has completely collapsed due to warming waters. The shrimp have moved away to colder water. The lobster fishery of southern New England has also collapsed, due, in part, to warming waters and northward-moving lobsters. The Dungeness crab fishermen on the west coast have also been victimized by warming waters and have lost their fishery. 9 out of 10 of the costliest hurricanes in American history, after adjusting for inflation, all occurred after the year 2000, according to NOAA and the National Hurricane Center. The increasing damage is not coming from higher winds but from massive rainfalls, as you may remember from the Houston deluge. More Americans are thinking twice about moving into waterfront property. Not only has the government rewritten and expanded flood zones, but so has the insurance industry, so good luck with that massive flood insurance payment. I agree wholeheartedly with you about putting your money where your mouth is, which is why (when it isn't below freezing and snowing) I ride my bike to work, a 20-mile round trip. My next car will also be electric, without question. But I already walk and bike more than 99% of Americans, and if I wasn't so old, I'd do it a lot more. :)
wally poly
wally poly 11 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Why wouldn't the US recognize rising sea levels? The rich have homes all over our coast and if it were adversely effecting them, it would be public knowledge. Arable lands are being lost every year and changes in climate does exist, but it doesn't only effect the poor as you have stated. Unless your are accusing the climate of discrimination. Rising sea levels would effect anyone near the water. Maybe, they've had less rainfall. So, what are you doing about it? What have you done to mitigate global warming? Have you started to walk to work and store? Have you abandoned air travel? Do you shutter your windows with an insulated closure to insure heat loss or gain? Do you shower with cold water? etc. You do something and when others see what you do, they will follow. The alarmist always want everyone else do something, like Pelosi who uses air travel at the people's expense. Watch yourself and all the others who cry about shit and see yourself and those others as hypocrites.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
The world's not going to become uninhabitable in 20 years. There will be pockets of damage, depending on where you live. Low-lying areas of the world have already suffered from sea level inundation and salt contamination of previously arable land. Thousands are already migrating out of the Mekong Delta in Vietnam and in Bangladesh because they've lost their subsistence farms. Most of us in the United States are oblivious to the harm that has already happened because up to this point it's mostly poor people who have been harmed. I would bet that far less than half of us will be personally affected by climate change in 20 years. The question is, are we going to give a crap about people who are. And yes, I would agree, being fully aware of the environmental strain around the world and wanting to do something about it, that's an appropriate name for me. :) +wally poly
wally poly
wally poly 12 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. That's what the Liberal professors do. If the world becomes uninhabitable in twenty years, I'll tell you that you were right. I say that you'll be waiting till hell freezes over. By the way. That's an appropriate name for you.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 15 дней назад
And what would you say of the 155 members of the Republican Party who are in office now due to donations from the oil industry, the top three being Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and Jim Inhofe? Which is why the EPA is being stripped of its regulatory power to protect our clean water and air? So, choose your poison, psychopathy or corruption. +wally poly
John Smith
John Smith 18 дней назад
The best way to compete with high CO2 levels is to plant more trees not reduce emissions of co2
jimbalio
jimbalio 18 дней назад
Gen 5 nuclear technology will put this all to rest, irrespective of this blathering simpleton's spuckle.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
So refreshing to see an enlightened post on this forum for a change. :)+jimbalio
jimbalio
jimbalio 12 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet You are correct, thankfully. There's a renaissance underway and a new generation of engineers is in the process of applying 21st century tools to create low pressure, non-water-cooled, walk-away safe, manageable waste nuclear power solutions to allow for the retirement of the +/- 435 commercial *pressurized water* reactors in service today that were essentially designed 45 years ago. Trouble is... we need 2500 x 1 mWe next generation nuclear plants TODAY to turn off humankind's CO2 emissions. We had better get real busy, real quick.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
Thorium power is coming.
fks1964
fks1964 18 дней назад
Isn’t it funny that banks continue to finance real estate on the coasts... why would they do that?
fks1964
fks1964 4 дня назад
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet haha. Bull shit. The cost of coastal land is not down. Stupid fuck. Any change in value is the free market.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 17 дней назад
Coastal Real estate values have dropped 7% from Maine to Florida, due to sea level rise, according to the latest data.
Hendrik Post
Hendrik Post 18 дней назад
I have always had a problem with these scientist and politicians who promote global warming, if they really believe this is man made, why are they still flying in planes everywhere and driving cars that are fuelled by gas or diesel? Just wondering!!!!!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
+Hendrik Post You will reject this as "fake news," but for what it's worth... The sun has cycled into its LOWEST activity phase in nearly 40 years. As a result, we should be cooling. In fact, NASA has been measuring temperatures of our outer atmosphere since 1978 and finds that it is indeed COOLING. Yet down on earth, we are WARMING. How is that possible? A cooling outer atmosphere and a warming interior one? Weirdly, the warming is rising twice as fast at the poles as at the equator, exactly opposite of what happens with direct solar heating. So something is trapping heat in our atmosphere. We've known for over 100 years that C02 traps heat. The same is true for methane. We are spewing huge amounts of these greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. Methane cycles out in a few years but C02 molecules can stay up there for over a century, which is why it is accumulating and trapping an increasing volume of heat. Nature also spews C02. But human activity produces nearly twice as much as volcanic activity. By measuring the ratio of carbon 12, 13 and 14 in the atmosphere, we can identify precisely whether the excess C02 is coming from natural sources or from man-made ones. According to that ratio, we know exactly where that C02 is coming from: the burning of fossil fuels.
Hendrik Post
Hendrik Post 13 дней назад
Simple questions that you don't seem to be able to answer or don't want to answer. An other question do you think the sun as any to do with climate change? I know you won't answer that question either. You and politicians are all the same, just believe me, don't ask questions, just pay more taxes and we fix the problem that we created. Next, you think you know what is going on in my head? I will say no more, you a science writer who know everything. Thank you for your wisdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
Your head is so addled with absurd conspiracy theories, it will be pointless to respond. +Hendrik Post
Hendrik Post
Hendrik Post 13 дней назад
Really!!!! I thought grants was money. No one that I know is claiming that they fudging data. How did these satellites get to space? How did men get to the moon? How did the landers get on Mars? What I am asking is, did they use fossil fuel to get there? So you believe what ever government says is all always true? Just wondering?
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
Are you serious? You're swallowing oil industry propaganda---whole. No government pays scientists to promote climate change. As a science writer for 45 years, I can tell you that science does not work this way, not even a little bit. Ever. Scientists are given grants to gather data. PERIOD. End of story. Whether that data points to man-made climate change or not is beside the point. Get caught fudging data, pro or con, and that's the end of your grants and your career. You are aware that NASA does a lot of data gathering with climate change, right? NASA, who has put up hundreds of satellites, solar platforms and space probes, who has developed hundreds of innovations and put put men on the moon, and landers on Mars. But somehow the oil industry has convinced you through their fake science sites that it's all bullshit, NASA scientists don't know what they're doing, they're stupid, they're on the take, they're dishonest. Really, Hendrik, you actually believe that? How likely is that, really? The most competent, most productive scientific organization ever created, and they're making up climate change? +Hendrik Post
Mat tell
Mat tell 18 дней назад
Strange how the left hates religion but literally worships climate change as a religion.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 13 дней назад
+Mat tell I can refute with actual science virtually every fact in the video you watched. Name the fact and I'll give you the rebuttal from actual scientists.
Mat tell
Mat tell 17 дней назад
When you can’t argue facts you attack the person. Your arguments lack substance.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 17 дней назад
You're far too addled by absurd conspiracy theories and stereotypes to respond to on an adult level, so I won't. +Mat tell
Mat tell
Mat tell 17 дней назад
The definition of faith is when you ignore facts and believe something exists no matter in the absence of proof. Yes, the left worships climate change... Keep kidding yourself. Want proof. Look at all the rich liberals who live along the coast. If they truly believed in climate change they would not be living in those locations. But, just watch this video. Or ignore it as am sure you are doing.. +SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 17 дней назад
Nobody on the left worships climate change. That's claptrap from Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Steyn, three blowhards with not a single college degree between them. Steyn didn't even make it out of high school. The Friends of Science video you watched was paid for by the oil industry, by the way. Just so you know.
jack schitt
jack schitt 18 дней назад
Suzuki is a fruit fly geneticist turn climate cult leader using CO2 has his poison while another Japanese cult leader Shoko Asahara uses sarin gas as his poison
jack schitt
jack schitt 18 дней назад
climate change = weather.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 17 дней назад
Wow. I'll alert the media.
Guy Christmas
Guy Christmas 18 дней назад
How can you compare the how the climate rose in average overall ,with the the average climate in Chicago in the month of December? I stopped watching there
Guy Christmas
Guy Christmas 17 дней назад
Exactly ! Overal , co2 emission is starting a vicious circle , greenhouse effect ain't good . Look at Venus wich atmosphère is like a pressure cooker, Not cause its a little closer To earth but cause of the co2 in the air
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 17 дней назад
You can't. Local weather bears no resemblance to global climate, which is measured over several years and thousands of locations. It's oil industry propaganda.
Guy Christmas
Guy Christmas 18 дней назад
I made bunch of typos .. but I'm still smarter than this fool
Arisgod27
Arisgod27 18 дней назад
Thank God for president Trump. Basically he has changed the course of an elite march toward trillions of dollars grab.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 18 дней назад
Renewable energy will actually save the population trillions when the costs of C02 and aerosol pollution are reduced and eliminated.
JesusIsGodAlmightySavior GodJesus
JesusIsGodAlmightySavior GodJesus 19 дней назад
God bless Ste Goreham !
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 19 дней назад
Yes, he's an excellent liar. One of the best. Nearly everything he presented in the video is refuted by actual climate scientists. Steve's not a scientist himself. He's an oil industry shill, paid by the Heartland Institute, who get their funding from Koch Industries and ExxonMobil, two of the biggest producers of C02 in the country. Heartland is the same organization that was paid by the tobacco industry to spread seeds of doubt about the link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. Yes, God bless Steve Goreham. I'm sure Jesus loves him.
joeashbubemma
joeashbubemma 19 дней назад
If we were headed for another ice age, what would the libtards be screaming? MORE CO2! Truth is, NO ONE can quantify, predict, or explain how global climate operates. For every parameter given, the expected result differs. When the math presented by "97% of scientists" doesn't take into account that the Earth is a sphere, then you have to ask yourself: either the Earth is indeed FLAT, or they have their heads up their asses. If you believe the math, you are by definition, a "flat Earther".
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 16 дней назад
+joeashbubemma Can you quantify by millimeter exactly how much the alignment of the sun and moon lift the earth's crust? What if the sun and moon aren't exactly in alignment? That's a tough number to come up with. But how does not knowing an exact number negate its occurrence? So if we don't have that number, we throw out ALL the data contained in over 20,000 pieces of peer-reviewed literature?
joeashbubemma
joeashbubemma 16 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Not denying your regurgitation of 'science' publications, my question STILL stands - BY HOW MUCH? Quantify it or it ISN'T science. I'll wait.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 16 дней назад
+joeashbubemma I would hasten to add that I'm not a "lefty." Concern with climate is not strictly confined to Dems and liberals. And I didn't mention the Australian guy's comment because I had already made that point about weather and climate and didn't see the necessity of repeating it.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 17 дней назад
The Milankovitch Cycles drive Ice Ages. We go in and out of an Ice Age roughly every 100,000 years. Over this time period, the earth's orbit changes from circular to elliptical, which alters how much solar energy we receive. The earth also wobbles and tilts on its axis every few thousand years, and these affect how much sunlight we get and affect our climate as well. The peak of the last Milankovitch Cycle happened during the Holocene, about 10,000 years ago, when it was quite warm and a lot of Arctic ice melted. We are outside of any Milankovitch warming effect now, however, and as part of a natural interglacial cycle, we should be experiencing slight cooling. That is not happening. The sun is also exhibiting extremely low activity now, as we're in a solar minimum, which should also be contributing to our cooling but is not. So WE ARE WARMING WHEN WE SHOULD NOT BE WARMING. NASA has been monitoring temps in Earth's outer atmosphere since 1978. They find that the outer atmosphere has COOLED. Yet our inner atmosphere continues to WARM. How is that possible? The poles are also warming at twice the rate of the equator, exactly opposite of what happens when the sun heats the earth directly. How is THAT possible? It's possible when heat is being trapped by C02 and methane in the atmosphere. Both gasses act like blankets. Methane cycles out of the atmosphere in just a few years but C02 molecules can hang around up there for a century, which is why it is accumulating, to a volume the earth's natural cycles are unable to process out. Nature both absorbs and spews C02. But human activity produces over 100 times more C02 than all of Earth's volcanoes, including the underwater ones. We can also differentiate volcanic C02 and other naturally-produced C02 from that produced by human activity. By measuring the ratio of carbon 12, 13, and 14 in the atmosphere, scientists can identify precisely the source of our excess: the burning of fossil fuels. In the time of the dinosaurs, C02 was far higher than it is today and it warmed the atmosphere so much that the entire polar ice caps melted, washed down over what is now Canada and created an ocean (the Western Inland Seaway) over the United States that remained there for millions of years. That's why we can still find the skeletons of sea creatures in Kansas today. So high C02 and warming aren't necessarily a good thing. Today we have billions of humans in harm's way, so that kind of climate change would not be welcome. And where did that high C02 back then come from if humans weren't around? From the breaking up of the super continent of Pangaea, which caused massive and long-term tectonic and volcanic activity, which spewed huge quantities of C02 into the atmosphere. Check into the science. The answers are there for you. Just be careful to avoid videos like the one you watched here by the Friends of Science. They're funded by the oil industry and climate scientists refute almost every fact they present. Go to SKepticalScience for reliable science answers. :) +joeashbubemma
joeashbubemma
joeashbubemma 17 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Yes, EXACTLY my point citing richard alvarado's post: "Australia just concluded it's hottest January in decades ( 116 degrees!!!! ) you fucknuts.". Shit on me, yet ignore the same argument from your eco-terrorist brethren. How mighty leftist of you.
Higgs Boson and the Strange Charm
Higgs Boson and the Strange Charm 19 дней назад
I wish this idiot was right, but, there is so much money to be made in deception and he must be making more than most....
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 19 дней назад
He's paid by the Heartland Institute, who in turn is funded by Koch Industries and ExxonMobil. Heartland is the same group hired by the tobacco industry to spread seeds of doubt about the link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. Lying is their speciality, through verbal sleight of hand, omission of facts, and cherry-picking data. The oil industry's donations to Heartland were once out in the open. Now all donations are made anonymously through Donors Trust. According to investigations by Drexel University, the Union of Concerned Scientists, and Greenpeace, the oil industry has donated over $500 million to nearly 100 climate change denial organizations. Their mis- representations of science (like the video above) permeate the Internet.
Lawrence Dolha
Lawrence Dolha 19 дней назад
I started studying the then Global warming in about 2004 when the oceans didn't rise. The only thing I found out is they now call Global Warming Climate change and they blame it all on mans use of oil, and gases.
Lolo Uro
Lolo Uro 20 дней назад
U delusional flat earther, bible thumping, moronic tool of the oil industry. Edjamacate yourself before u open your mouth!! Watch "A farewell to ice | Peter Wadhams | TEDxUHasselt" on RUvid ruvid.net/video/видео-m-58wuR7D8M.html Watch "Ice Free Arctic? Thom Hartmann with Prof Peter Wadhams (June 2016)" on RUvid ruvid.net/video/видео-m8V9WWCAC1M.html Watch "James Hansen - Scientific Reticence: A Threat to Humanity and Nature" on RUvid ruvid.net/video/видео-S7z61UZoppM.html
Brendan
Brendan 20 дней назад
This channel was brought to you from your friends at BP
Sean Simpson
Sean Simpson 16 дней назад
BP even publishes science showing humans effects on climate change. LOL
lilly bloom
lilly bloom 20 дней назад
The monster problem for the Warmers is their Major Premise, which reads as follows: We live in a closed system that traps gases and other substances, much like a greenhouse. The fact is, however, that we live in an open system. The higher the altitude the thinner the air becomes until it melds into space. There is no ceiling! There is no cap! Massive amounts of waste go out into space every instant-never to be seen again. If your Major Premise is incorrect, then your argument is dead. Thus, global warming as claimed by the Warmers is impossible!!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 19 дней назад
You do know that if it really was an open system where gasses escaped as soon as they were produced, you would not be breathing now. What do you think keeps air from escaping?
jim Silva
jim Silva 20 дней назад
Oh yeh, he's a climate researcher - well so am I and this guy is full of it. How much has he studied it? enough to get a doctorate degree in climate science like those who did who can show us factually how serious it is? No. He's a propagandist. Non-political my ...! He's just working for the rich elites who want to stuff as much profits into their already full pockets before the "event" happens and the rest of us get screwed more than them in a Mad Max World. For the non-"believers", once the Acrtic ice is gone for part of the summer, definitely within 5 yrs, the feedback loops will kick in seriously and your mortgages will be worth nothing. Do your own research, not just these Exon/Koch funded denier sites. Skepticalscience.com has all the arguments both sides and could save you time.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 12 дней назад
Awesome post, Jim. I'm usually outnumbered by the Dunning-Kruger crowd here, so your insights are oh so welcome. Please keep posting. :)
Vic Lawson
Vic Lawson 14 дней назад
WOW I had no idea Al moron Gore had a doctorate in climate science. That escaped me because all the stuff he spews doesn't come close to the actual science I learned in 3rd grade about "the carbon life cycle".
Robert chambers
Robert chambers 20 дней назад
An excuse explanation for climate change and for deforestation wild life destruction and ocean and river pollution !!!
John Ferrando
John Ferrando 20 дней назад
I see 1.4k 'dislikes'...Hmmm, seems some are simply destined to be fools. JSMH
elli003
elli003 21 день назад
The carbon tax is just a way to give the masses a way to gladly participate in changing something they could never hope to change. If your government requires you to pay a carbon tax then challenge your government to produce results. They can't. President Macron of France last year proposed a carbon tax manifested through a tax on gasoline (see Yellow Vest Riots of 2018 on RUvid) . I wonder how Macron would present to the world his Climate Change Spending of this tax revenue windfall. It's nothing more than a targeted attempt to raise money to be re-purposed and pay for Social Programs (Universal Health Care, Universal Education, Equal This, and Equal That). They want the global climate to be 72 degrees F, all the time, all over the planet. Their next project is to redistribute wind, and rain evenly throughout the world. How preposterous. Climate Change to the extent people contribute and can do something about is a fairy tale.
Allan Fifield
Allan Fifield 21 день назад
The April 8, 1977 cover of the 'Coming Ice Age' appears to be a fake. This link apparently from Time.com appears to show the true 1977 covers time.com/vault/year/1977/
Cl Lyman
Cl Lyman 21 день назад
www.aol.com/article/weather/2019/01/30/polar-vortex-by-the-numbers-6-states-in-us-record-temperatures-lower-than-south-pole/23657155/ Any questions. 35 years ago it was "The Alberta Clipper" and before that, ruvid.net/video/видео-w35RgFs7Di8.html
Angelo Morte
Angelo Morte 21 день назад
Obama, he who makes his own statistics the lying piece of Crap. Obama talking was one of the largest CO2 producer plus all his Bullshit did help either. Just look who supports this, Obama, Al Gore and anyone else who owns interest in solar power. LMFAO
Angelo Morte
Angelo Morte 18 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Unfortunately I do live in the path of hurricanes and I think they are smaller & less frequent that the 60's.And the Bulkheads that I lived by don't look any different today than they did in the 50's. Were I dock my boat is the same yard I've used for 30 years so I am sorry I just don't see what your saying. Enjoy our retirement.!
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 18 дней назад
+Angelo Morte I actually agree with you on that. Most of us will fly under the radar of climate change. Some will have to change and adapt, like the Maine shrimp fishermen who have lost their entire fishery to warming waters or the Dungeness crab fishermen on the west coast, due to the same problem, or the natives of Bangladesh or Mekong Delta in Vietnam, where swamping sea level rise has destroyed previously arable land and drinking water resources, or anyone in the path of the increasingly intense hurricanes and epic rainstorms, or farmers having their crops decimated by drought, or waterfront property owners, who are already losing value on their real estate due to sea level rise. Damage will be patchy. But it probably will not affect me because I'm not a farmer, or a fisherman and I don't live on the water or in the normal paths of hurricanes. And I'm old. Good debating. Cheers. :)
Angelo Morte
Angelo Morte 18 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet I respect your opinion but I still believe that a meteor, comet or coronal mass ejection will end life on this planet long before the climate ever will. I just have opposite opinions on the people you feel very strongly about. Maybe because I've seen through the lies and hidden motivations of these people over the years I don't share your opinion about them. Good luck with your endeavors and it was a please to have a dialog with you.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 18 дней назад
+Angelo Morte You apparently overlooked my comment on his carbon offsets. He offsets his use of fossil fuels by powering his entire house and property with renewable, non-polluting energy and, measure for measure, he probably has a smaller carbon footprint than you or I do. Gore DOES NOT DO THE OPPOSITE. In every way possible, he avoids fossil fuels, but last time I checked, jets weren't powered by rubber bands, so he has no choice but to fly with jet fuel. You're completely ignoring the good he does by making people aware and getting them to cut fossil fuel use. Your argument is if Al Gore is a hypocrite, then climate change is bullshit and we should ignore it? Bill Nye is also a respected adult science writer. You're apparently unaware of his books and adult science programming. As a science writer, I've worked the entire field as well, from science magazines to kid books to adult books. Being in one field for awhile doesn't disqualify you from writing in another.
Angelo Morte
Angelo Morte 19 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Means nothing if you don't live what you preach, can you imagine his carbon foot print..? Just because you have money & power doesn't give you the right to screw the planet more than someone that is homeless. Typical Virtual signalling which is all BS. Andy Bill Nye had a kids program & that's what he should stick to. The End doesn't justify the means, Al Gore points at you and does just the opposite, I believe the word is Hypocrite.
Kyle Austin
Kyle Austin 21 день назад
Co2 is harmless? Co2 is extremely toxic. That is why astronauts put co2 scrubbers in their spacecraft. This guy is dumb.
Roy Oetting
Roy Oetting 22 дня назад
Mr. Goreman really did a nice job on presenting information we all should know. I learned a lot. I feel he really dropped the ball when he didn't directly relate solar activity to the Maunder Minimum or the medieval warm period or specifically to the Modern Grand Solar Maximum which just ended and the Eddy Grand Solar Minimum which just started. It is the Sun that is the driving force and it is the change in it's activity that controls the climate. With regard to subsidizing companies to produce and sell solar and wind power, that is a crime. It is welfare for the rich and the nonproductive engineer.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 20 дней назад
I'm not implying, I'm stating historical fact. Spencer was once highly respected until he began to produce questionable data, beginning in the 90s. When he asserted that his research had uncovered a COOLING planet and not a warming one, several scientists cried foul and investigated his data. They made several corrections, after which the data showed clear evidence of WARMING, which Spencer had to acknowledge. This was not the only data set he has had corrected. He's opposed by most climate scientists, and if you go to SkepticalScience and enter Roy Spencer's name, you'll see the many reasons why. The only reason you could possibly have for not seeing evidence against Spencer is that you haven't looked. His history is common knowledge and most likely available on Wikipedia. I'm not a "libtard," by the way. I'm a pro-business, fiscal conservative, with many Republican values. Stereotyping and name calling are pretty poor arguments. Eight independent investigative committees found "no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct" in the Climategate scandal you mention. The UK's national weather service released temperature records from over 1000 weather stations worldwide, which ended up proving that the planet is indeed warming. The scientists involved in the scandal had their work thoroughly examined. The result? Their work had been "carried out with integrity," according to the investigators. Tim Ball published statements that claimed Mann was complicit in a "coverup" of Climategate, which the 8 different investigations found to be untrue. He said Mann should be in the State Pen, not Penn State." Since Mann was exonerated, he has a right to be a bit miffed. Whether that rises to the level of libel, I couldn't say, but Mann's lawsuit has been put on hold, last I checked. The lawsuit you mentioned was against Andrew Weaver, not Mann.+Roy Oetting
Roy Oetting
Roy Oetting 20 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Are you implying that he cheats and changes the data? Why hasn't anyone challenged his work? There is something eerie about Libtards where they are so anxious to say bad things about people. In some cases it is true. The University of East Anglia was caught doctoring the data to make it look like the planet was getting warmer and NASA has revised the historical data to make it look like the thirties was cooler. Tim Ball just won a lawsuit against Mann because he had made derogatory comments about Mann which must be true since he won the law suit. So I guess there are people who are inclined to bend the truth but I have not seen any evidence that Dr's Spencer or Soon have done that.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 20 дней назад
+Roy Oetting Roy Spencer is funded in part by Peabody Energy. I'm trying really hard to get you to open your eyes to these people. I knew his name would come up sooner or later. He and Lindzen and Patrick Moore and Tony Heller and Anthony Watts and several others on the oil industry payroll. Why that doesn't give you pause is amazing. No conflict of interest? Peabody Energy? Spencer started out as a respectable scientist but then lost his credibility with his fudging of facts to prove global cooling. He continues to do that to this day. Temps have continued to rise. They did not stop or pause in any way after 1998. That's Roy Spencer hogwash. This has been shown again and again through measurements from satellites, on the ground and in the ocean, by scores of meteorological agencies, working independently around the world. Warming is going up along with C02. Check out NASA TIME LAPSE OF ARCTIC ICE and watch the old ice vanish right before your eyes. It will show you first-hand how full of baloney your pseudo-scientists on the oil industry payroll are.
Roy Oetting
Roy Oetting 20 дней назад
+SwiftlyTiltingPlanet Dr's Spencer and Christy are responsible for collecting and disseminating global temperatures. www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/ Observe the lack of change in global temperature since 1998. You chose 1970 to look at what the global temperature has done and when you do that you are looking at the Modern Grand Solar Maximum. This is what should be expected. The Eddy Grand Solar Minimum I believe started with the beginning of SC#24 in 2007. How much has the temperature risen since 2000? It hasn't but CO2 has continued to rise. Can you explain? I talk about global temperature and you give me local weather. If you knew anything about the Maunder Minimum you would know that some places were warmer, wetter and dryer but what is of concern is the amount of farm land that will be adversely effected by this minimum. Hansen rekindled a hysteria that PM Thatcher started to thwart the coal mining union. Some good came prom that because both in the US and Britain the gases coming from the stacks and from our tail pipes is cleaner. It was that many years ago that the amount of CO2 was dwindling. It was decreasing on a linear scale. If it had continued all land base plant life would have died. Fortunately what ever the reason it is now increasing and making the planet greener. Did you know that plants don't need as much water when the CO2 levels are higher. We should be glad that mother nature is providing more food for our green world.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 20 дней назад
+Roy Oetting You're misinformed, Roy. Meanwhile, Australia broke heat records this week. The Arctic Vortex is a symptom of disturbances in the atmosphere due to global warming, not a sign of oncoming cold spells across the planet. Globally, the winters are WARMER than ever, according to all the major studies from NOAA and others. The polar vortex is not related to our normal weather. You're looking at anecdotal weather, not global stats. Climate is measured globally over a long period of time. We tend to take notice of drastic events like this but ignore the bland weather, but it's the average of everything together that reveals the truth. There's a great graphic at Climate Central, from November 29, 2017, showing how the entire country has warmed since 1970. The northeast and midwest have warmed between 0.7--1.4 degrees F per decade since 1970. Burlington, VT. is averaging 7 degrees higher in winter now than in 1970; Fargo, ND, 5.9 degrees; Minneapolis-St. Paul, 6 degrees. It seems counter-intuitive in light of the extreme cold this week, but that is the reality. For every degree Celsius that temps rise, the atmosphere is able to hold another 7% of water vapor, and that means more snow and rain, not less over time.
Tom Saltzman
Tom Saltzman 22 дня назад
Thank God for President Trump.
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet
SwiftlyTiltingPlanet 21 день назад
Yes, as a deity who commands us not to lie or abuse others, he picked a real winner.
libinqw
libinqw 22 дня назад
01/29/2019. Tomorrow morning predicted windchill -50, another history low record here in Chicago
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